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#012: Culture: Moving From Program to Practice with John Robertson

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Gaining clarity and control in our business is not a one-time event; it’s an on-going journey that requires leaders to gain new skills along the way. Today on System & Soul, we invite crisis expert John Robertson, who helps senior leaders transform both personal and professional crisis into opportunities to thrive.
In this episode, Benj and John discuss how to move leadership and culture out of a programmatic system; how we think about expenses vs. investments, especially when it comes to internal systems and processes; and, connecting the long-term vision of the organization with the work and efforts of today.
Click here to learn more about John Robertson and Fortlog
This episode is sponsored by The 261.
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