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Melissa and Pelayo speak with Mandi Rice, a chaplain and the founder of the Queerituality project. Mandi traveled around the US, with her project Queerituality, interviewing folks who were trying to reconcile their queerness and spirituality.
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Melissa and Pelayo speak with Mandi Rice, a chaplain and the founder of the Queerituality project. Mandi traveled around the US, with her project Queerituality, interviewing folks who were trying to reconcile their queerness and spirituality. After 16 years of reconciling her queerness and faith, she was able to find a community where she belonged, completing her "confirmation" as a Christian, on her own terms.
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I'd like to go to something a little bit more positive for our own sakes, but it's kind of connected also because you did a whole guide on how to in fact your faith and I would look to love a little bit more about that. So if somebody has listened to us complain about all this because as we should, how can they deconstruct this pain that has been done to them through the through these guidelines that you share to me? The biggest take away from it is that you actually have toe live your way out of this dilemma that a lot of people are in it like it will take time and it takes action and experience, not just thinking and solving scriptural puzzles like You can't just intellectualize your way out of it in the book that I walk people through, like, how can you have some hope that maybe things one day might be different than they are now? And, like, how can you practice being kind to yourself? How can you get new images of what it might be like to be queer and religious like? Where can you turn for examples of what that looks like just to even imagine that it's possible. And then you went to seminary or divinities. So I don't wanna miss talking about this. But also there was time in between those things, right? It's this a process and it's a coming or ah, continuous journey, like with spiritual life, just like our life is a continuous journey. But tell us a little bit about what inspired you to go to seminary. I am happy to talk about seminary because it was really pivotal for me and I don't think everybody needs to go to seminary. I kind of don't think I should have needed to go to seminary. I think that there should have been like plenty of publicly available healing. Resource is and communal resource is around queerness and spirituality. I should not have had to take out tens of thousands of dollars in student loan debt in order to access Resource is like that because they should exist in the world. But, um, that is where I went to find community that was queer and religious. A sense of intellectual competence, enough to do this work enough intellectual competence to feel a sense of safety going into explicitly religious spaces. I also went there for mentorship. So I heard about this guy named Mark Jordan, who was a day man himself writes about religion and spirituality, and his whole work is around fostering other young, LGBT Q people to do religious writing. And I was like, Holy God, like that's my vocation in the world. So I went there to be with him, but there were a lot of things going on. Now you are a virtual leader or your chaplain. Yeah, I'm a chaplain resident at this exact moment on by work specifically, and the LGBT chaplain resident at one of the Harvard affiliated hospitals in Boston. Um, what that means is that I worked specifically with some of the algae.
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