as always, I encourage you to go watch these interviews for yourself. But I'm going to reduce some of Chris Harrison's quotes and kind of break down some of the reaction from Bachelor Nation and fans, he said. Quote. I am saddened and shocked at how insensitive I was in that interview with Rachel Lindsay. I didn't speak from my heart, and that's to say I stand against all forms of racism and I'm deeply sorry I talked to Rachel not since she deactivated her INSTAGRAM account, but I talked with Rachel initially, and I apologized. I want to do it again. I am incredibly sorry to anyone who was throwing hate towards Rachel Lindsay. Please stop. It's unacceptable. Chris Harrison also revealed he's working with faith leaders, scholars, a race educator and strategist in order to better himself. And when asked about the comment of the 2018 versus 2021 situation with antebellum party that Rachel Carbonell was at, he said, quote antebellum parties are not okay past present future. Knowing what that represents is unacceptable. He also noted. I'm not a victim here. Racism, oppression, those are big, dynamic problems and they take serious work and I committed to that work, I plan to be back and I want to be back. This interview is not the finish line. There's a lot. There's much more work to be done, and I'm excited to be part of that change. You know, I'm not really in the business of judging apologies. I've said that before, and I think the decision of how to move forward when someone apologizes for something that hurt people is always really complicated. Um, and obviously it's a. B. C s decision on whether they want Chris Harrison to be the one to lead the Bachelor into some sort of. I don't know if it's a new era, but they obviously want. Hopefully, they want to make the right decisions to prevent this from happening again. Like the show in the last couple years has come under fire for a lot of different reasons. And I think that, you know, certain scandals are always going to happen when you're inviting messy people to be on a reality show. But there's some really serious ones, and I think they did make an effort to make changes. We heard to say she had a diversity coach on her season. She felt comfortable. She saw diversity behind the camera and they don't want to ruin that. And that was a great season of the show for a lot of reasons, and they don't want to ruin that and go backwards. But they need to make the right decisions on moving forward. And I think the Chris Harrison of it all is really complicated. I don't know what the right answer is. Some people thought, including the person who interviewed him on G M. A. That it was a little lackluster. Um, his apologies, his apology. But I felt like I got nothing more than a service response to any of this. Obviously, he's a man who wants to really stay on the show. But only time will tell if there's any meeting behind his words. I kind of agree with that. As I was watching this interview, I thought it kind of seems like Chris Harrison was reading off a script. Um, but he is also a very polished guy, like I've interviewed him before and he always sort of sounds professional and like he's saying all the right things, not necessarily in a bad way, just like he's done this show for so many years, and he knows the points to hit. He's very media trained, so I don't know if that was just another example of that. That being said, you know, he did apologize several times. I don't think Chris Harrison should be canceled. I don't think everyone should be like you should never have another opportunity again hosting or working. I don't think that that's the solution here. Um, and I don't think that that would benefit anyone. But I asked. Like I said, I don't know if he's the perfect person to lead the show anymore, just with the direction that they want to go. I wanted to read some of the reactions to this, including from Rachel Lindsay, of course. And something really interesting that Rachel Lindsay has said on extra and on her higher learning podcast is that she didn't want this to turn into Chris Harrison versus Rachel Lindsay. And I think for some people and for some, sometimes it did, and I think the media is part of that. I think everyone looking to her for guidance all the time is part of that. I think it you know it turned into that. But there's a bigger learning moment here. But she did say quote, I do accept the apology. I think it's important for me to say that I haven't really talked about Chris and the statement because I'm not trying to make this Chris versus Rachel. But the fact that once again you know, this isn't the first time he's apologized to me. He apologized again on G. M. A. I do accept that, and I think it's important to say that because we need to move forward and for me, for us to move forward. I need to accept the apology so we can all better from this situation, which is what we want. This was on extra. She also said. I think that in 2020 it was all about people realizing things that they hadn't before. It was a level of awareness that was created that people hadn't necessarily recognized, and of that was also came. Conversely, out of that also came conversations that we should be having, whether they're tough, uncomfortable, whatever it may be. Isn't that what the shall be about? It's bigger than just the bachelor. It's bigger than just a reality show. There are a lot of issues that have come up because of this interview, and I think it's important to continue the discussion and move forward. I think that's the best thing we can hope for all of this.