Mm, You're listening or you're watching a great conversation with Aidan Napalm. The art of change dot com is her company. She's of also does improv on Your Feet, improv for business. And she has this Ted talk that I really enjoyed. But in there you talk about Aidan fear and joy in this limbo in between. That's keeping you from going from fear to joy. Talk to us about that. Yeah, thanks for bringing that up. So I call it limbo, but it's really a place of comfort. Uh, it's a place of familiarity, comfort, maybe the wrong word, because it can be quite uncomfortable in that place. But what it is is when you are falling back on your patterns of behavior and habits of thought that no longer serve you well but continue to do them. That's how you end up in that place of limbo. You're afraid of doing things wrong, so you're not going towards the greater joy. And I want to be clear that when it comes to changing these things, it isn't always about, um, like when I work with my clients one on one. It isn't always about having a major career change in order to seek your greatest joy. It could be something really small. Like your communication with your teammates has sort of fallen into a pattern of habit and thoughts that don't serve that relationship Well, so you're not having an effective communication, and you may think that you know what it would take to get past that tough communication. But you're afraid to try it. So you keep doing the thing that isn't working because it's familiar. So in the Ted talk, I tell a very personal story about really a moment of career change for me. Um, but, uh, in this example, it still is the same thing. You want to take a moment and think about? Well, what are the moments that do work? What do I like about those? How can I do more of that? Um, and that's basically the gist of it. It's like in my story and my Ted talk. Um, I talked about a really difficult period in my life. Uh, and I was really unsure about how to get out of that, right? How to how to find a career. That was that I was passionate about. I was floundering I was doing like a million things, trying to find a fit. I was like running through the world in a way in that moment, like the little character in the Children's book being like, Are you my mommy? Are you my career path? Are you my career path? Uh, my passionate about this I don't even know, you know? So it's like it was a super confusing time. And, uh, luckily for me, I have a self help bestselling author father who applied some of his work with me. And the truth is, I grew up with these tools. But if you've ever hired a coach to help you through a decision, if you've ever worked with a mentor to boost your business, then you know that sometimes even though those answers are here all along inside, it does often take somebody to point some things out to you to really see them. And that was what my dad did for me. He was like, You just keep making safe choices. And if you want rewards, you have to take risks. And I was like, What are you talking about? I've been doing all these amazing things. I don't think you could call, um, you know, living a vaudeville style, life making safe choices. Um, and at the same time, he was absolutely right. The safe choice that I was making my habit of thought was if somebody said something was a good idea, I agreed to that. Somebody was like, You should do rock climbing. I was like, Cool. That sounds great. And then I became a rock labor. Somebody was like, You should learn how to play Guitar was like cool. So I learned to play guitar, and those things are cool, and I have no regrets about doing that. That's a really fun way to live life. But if you want to get any kind of, um, traction in anything, if you want to have more reward than simply posting, then you have to be a little more intentional.