and I had been living with depression for a long time, like 20 years. So from the age of, um, I guess, like 17. Or, you know, around that age when really when it was like people didn't really know, understand what depression was. And so I got myself eventually to the doctors and they put me on medication and I was on medication for 15 years. And, um, you know, during those those times like I, you know, I just suffer with anxiety and panic attacks as well. But every time that I used to try to come off the medication, it was like a car crash. I mean, I just literally couldn't function. And so then I would go back on the medication, and I tried all of these different, um, like psychotherapy. CBT yoga changed my diet detox. Um, you know, just I tried everything that I possibly could to try and get to the roots of depression, which can be very complex. Uh, and it was like over 10 years ago, now that I was I was in a really, really dark place anyway, like with the Depression, sometimes it just takes you to a really dark place and and I walked into a breath workshop. I had no idea what to expect. At the time, I was working at a place a really special place called the Special Yoga Center, where, um, I was raising funds for the Yoga Center because they want a special needs kids. And it's just a really beautiful place run by a lady called Joe Manuel. And so I was really stressed because I had to raise £100,000 of this amazing event that we were putting on. And, um yeah, and there happened to be a breath workshop there. And so I, um I just walked into it, didn't know what to expect. And it was so powerful on so many levels, you know, it was very cathartic. It was very physical. Um, I could feel every cell in my body, and I just knew that I had really found something that wasn't necessarily I felt I didn't know exactly at that time, But I felt like I found something that wasn't like just a temporary fix, like, you know, if you go for a massage and you feel better or you know, you go for Iran you can shift, you know you can shift the way that you feel. But with this I just felt it going a lot more deeper on many, many levels. And so I just kept going back for more transformational breath exercises or workshops doing one on ones and wherever I could, really, And very quickly, really. I managed to come off the medication with guidance of my doctor, and I haven't taken medication for 10 years. And so it totally, totally changed my life massively, like in so many ways. Like, you know, that was just the beginning of that journey and and then, you know, it's sort of then started to change my life in in other ways and and really taught me how to trust my mind and to really become become friends with my body as well. And, um so yeah came off the medication and then decided that this is what I wanted to teach, and I just I just went for the went for it and just went for the training and went to Miami and got to Italy and Mexico and all these wonderful places where they were teaching this work with the founder of transformational breath duty, private. So I trained a lot with her and, yeah, I just had a practice ever since. So that's that's in a nutshell. How I came across it. Amazing. Amazing how it was. You tried all these other things that it was breathwork that really turned things around. And can you explain what exactly it is? Yeah, So I mean, obviously, you know, it's not just about breath work as well. I really think it's like how you it's a really central support system for me. But then it's kind of gets us to become more aware about the way that we're living our life. For the people that we have in a life or what we're putting into our bodies or what are triggers are what are patterns are what we used to like distract ourselves. And so really, it was like to me, it's like therapy, but without having to do the talking. And, you know, rather than going over and over a story in our heads, which you know is finding some of the therapies that I was going to like previously, like with some like like therapists. I go in there and I talked for an hour. I think I'm not sure kind of what happened there. Or sometimes I'd be like, um, wondering what to talk about for an hour. And with this, really just it's it's all about coming out with the mind. I'm not saying that psychotherapy is amazing, and I think, you know, there's a combination of all of these things is incredible. So But But for me, um, it was more about really listening to, like, the intelligence of my body and what I have been holding.