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Has a book ever made you want to scream? Groan? Growl? Listen in to the quirky sound reviews and general review of the book, “Men Are From Mars, Women Are From Venus” by John Gray. From sexual stereotypes, only acknowledging heterosexual relationships, and more, listen in to some of the issues these
you're old, you should know better, but you are old. Yeah, that's why I'm disappointed. How old is he? I don't know. But I'd like to point out that sometimes. In fact, I think on more than one occasion the author of the book has listened to the podcast. So sorry, john this might be that scathing if you're here however old you are. Imagine we will not be invited to your old birthday party, you know, this podcast, but also This book was written 24 years ago. So maybe his opinions have changed True. However, 1992 are situated in situation gender. Trouble was already written by do yeah, this is true. Two 1010. Okay. Delusions of gender by cordelia Fine hadn't come out and that did definitely prove that gender wasn't a thing. But I mean historically your embarrassingly close to it being inaccurate. These conversations were definitely happening. Oh yeah. No, but I'm saying that maybe because it was so long ago. He's changed since. Oh yeah, maybe. But I think maybe excusing this. I don't you tell me, do you think excusing this because of the time? It is enough. No, because I don't think no, no, no. I would excuse if it was in the 70s or the 60s, but it reads nineties. It reads like stuff I read for unique set in the sixties, not something written in the sixties, But I think maybe we're giving the 90s too much credit because it was only in 91 where marital rape was made illegal. Yeah. Actually, and this is a revolution john I guess. Well with marriage counseling he would have only done marriage counseling with men and women. Yeah. I mean, I don't know if he even acknowledges the existence of gay people know not any part that I read. Yeah. And what planet would they live on? Uranus? I'm emotional geographer. He was dealing with two specific planets. Don't ask him to do more guy emotional. I'm gonna write, I'm going to write a follow up called, We're all from the solar system. Well, I guess john Gray must die. Like john tucker must I know a little boy. But speaking of the no existence of gay people in this book. Um, and just generally, it is completely about heterosexual relationships and very much stereotypes. Um, men and women. But he, I don't know if you picked up on this, but like in the introduction, he acknowledges that he is going to be making grand sweeping generalizations about men and women In about two or 3 sentences. Yeah. So yeah, he yeah, it was like two or 3 sentences and then it's like, I didn't tick tick that box. Okay. Maybe that's the publishing disclaimer, john, you've got to add something. But he said he says, I'm gonna be making generalizations. Um, and this is just the way that men and women are in this book. We're not really going to discuss why they're this way, whether it's biological, social, cultural. Like he just so if you can prove it, john, that's what we're talking about. Just dips his toe in of being like, could, like nature versus nurture. That's not the debate we're going to have here, but just whatever. So, he acknowledges that we don't know why men and women are like this, if we can't say that, they are like this in the book. But then the rest of the book, his language is all about how this is how we naturally are. And I'm like, john, because he said at the beginning, it could also be nurture. There's nothing inquisitive about his tone, there's nothing humble about it. And there's something terribly Daily Mail about the way he says, fact, Oh my God, Oh my God. But also, um he says this thing that made me laugh so much. Um, which is, he's like, you may be reading this book and you may see yourself reflected in some of these scenarios and descriptions and all of this stuff. Um, but you might also find yourself reflected in the descriptions of the opposite sex. This is what I call role reversal. Yeah, that's what everyone calls it. I like that you just, it's like Miranda was like, it's what I call afternoon tea, like everyone calls that afternoon tea. Oh, I was like, you didn't just invent role reversal, but also the assumption that like, I can experience one officially according to john masculine characteristic in my relationship and thus I am deemed like wrong. Like that part of me doesn't work like a woman. No, hilarious. Um, do we want to explain what this book is about the viewers listeners? I want to say what's about. And then I want to, I want to see what we, if we got what we thought we were gonna get. Okay, okay.