we get it, we pass it on and sometimes we're lucky enough to pass on our recovery. My dad never found the rooms of alcoholics anonymous and I want to say something very quickly at the beginning of this. I appreciate what you said, bob about anonymity. You know? My name is paul Williams and I'm a recovering alcoholic, you can print that to the day I die and and keep on printing it, you know? Yeah, yeah. What I would ask is that you allow me to continue a record that I'm proud of for 13 years? You've never seen my name printed next to the words alcoholics anonymous. Mm. So what I would ask if anybody listening to the tape, anybody in the audience who is with the press, please feel free to talk about my recovery. You know, I think anytime anybody talks openly about the recovery, we take a little bit of the stigma of alcoholism off the disease, but please honor our tradition, you know, because and let me explain to you very simply why we have that tradition. If Polly Williams goes out and gets drunk Wednesday and you, you printed that I'm a member of alcoholics anonymous, somebody's going to go, well, I thought he was in that day a at a a must not work at a works just fine. You know, if Polly Williams gets drunk is because Polly Williams did not work a perfect first step, you know, and I hope if Polly Williams ever does that and he lives through it, that he has enough of a man to come back in the rooms and say I'm back, please help me because that's what I have to do. You know what I was raised in alcoholic with the twin towers of fear and grandiosity, you know?