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A Virologist Explains That Covid Wasn't Made in a Lab

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If scientists really did design COVID-19 in a lab, they made a pretty glaring mistake. According to a virologist, the virus is too imperfect to be a product of human design.
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If scientists really did design COVID-19 in a lab, they made a pretty glaring mistake. According to a virologist, the virus is too imperfect to be a product of human design. And the Department of Homeland Security agrees. According to the virologist, the polybasic cleavage site—which is a part of a virus that scientists can tweak to make a disease devastatingly dangerous—showed no signs of human tampering. Not only that, the site was almost laughably ill-designed.
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Yes there's another glaring piece of evidence that suggests this virus isn't the work of some evil geniuses. And it's this if scientists did design this virus they made an unexplainable e dumb choice in putting it together and it all has to do with this this piece called the poly basic cleavage site. Um And so that's you know the big mouthful. It is a mouthful. But I tell you by the end of this you'll be spouting polly basic cleavage site after you've downed 10 beers. So let's go. Okay that was christian steven. So you just heard he's been his PhD student. All right. So what's the big deal with these poly basic cleavage sites? That christian is odd about, wow viruses use these sites to get into ourselves to infect us. But for them to work a protein from our body has to come along and snip something off that site as though a pair of scissors came through. Once this virus has been circumcised it can then enter ourselves and start attacking us. And christian says it's useful to think about this side like a button. Only once you push that button, is it ready to go? And while other viruses have this button, our coronavirus has a button that's bigger and easier to find. That's the policy, basic cleavage site, the big button. And we think that it means that the virus might be able to do more damage in our bodies. But here's the thing when researchers saw that big button in our coronavirus, they didn't see a big made in china sticker on it. And that's because for years scientists have been studying what makes the best cleavage site, the biggest button, the easiest to press and they could spot it in the genes and let me tell you this one, it ain't it. Producer Rose Rambler talked to christian about it. It's very easy to know how to make that in the perfect way. And this has made in a very imperfect, almost seemingly random way. If you were an evil scientist training minions of evil scientists and you were sent, you told them like make a make a cleavage site that to end all cleavage sites, What that was their assignment, What grade would you give them? So not a good grade. Then her christians teacher agrees. The poly basic side is crappy, polly basics. Like someone designed it. You know, they didn't do a very good job. So here's where we're at to have made this virus. In a lab, scientists would have needed to have a very similar virus on hand that they could tweak a secret virus. And sure if I put my conspiracy theory hat on, I could buy that. But then when they went in to tweak it, they could have easily made this poly basic cleavage side much more dangerous. But they didn't, it doesn't make sense. And if scientists wanted to cause chaos with a virus, they really didn't have to go to so much trouble. In my private moments. I'm like a much easier way to make that the virus. If you didn't catch that, he says there are much easier ways to make a deadly virus. Ben hur and other scientists we spoke to said that if you wanted to cause a lot of trouble, you wouldn't do it this way with this coronavirus. Here's what you do instead. You'll get me in trouble so you can make, you know, Yeah, super charges. I mean, the bottom line, if you know what you're doing, you don't pick a coronavirus. Yes. Yes. People could do stuff much more easy than making a corona. For Ben hur and other scientists who study viruses they knew right away that there was nothing suspicious here. There's no human fingerprints on its genetic code as a scientist. Is it just really silly to ask if this was made in a lab or is this a legitimate question that people might have as a scientist that's a bonafide scientists? Um It's a ridiculous question. I mean I would say I would say it's a ridiculous questions once we knew the full sequence. Because you can just compare to feel sequence and you know, anything about virology and coronavirus and how hard it is. It's just a non starter kind of question. You know, even the Department of Homeland Security agrees that this virus did not come from a lab in china or anywhere else.
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