more. So you work with a Bolton in in class, right eyes there any other tools or like, mandatory gear that or software that you use. So, I mean, I've actually it's funny, like before this. For many years I was kind of known as like the outlier using logic. And I actually met my current studio partner because we were like, the only two people in our circle that used it. But I've always used a Bolton for life performance. And, you know, as I got more into teaching it, I started realizing, Oh, there's actually like so much cool stuff on the production side, too. Ast faras in the course. Um, there's a lot of just sense that we use if people go into sound design. Serum is kind of like the basic well that everyone uses. And then I kind of take them through all the different types of synthesis. So we'll use, like the F M eight on my favorite, since which is semi obscure. Maybe part of the reason I like it is a spectral, morphing like harmonic content modulator called Gladiator, and I kind of got everyone in my school into that as well and we also go through a lot of different techniques. But the crazy thing about a Bolton is every version. I honestly, I get more and more impressed and they're not paying me. I do not get paid by a Bolton. So Thistle is honestly, just the thing I discovered on my own was like, Wow, they've They've come up with kind of high quality, interesting versions of every kind of new technique that there is, So you can do so much with the built in stuff That's awesome. And what I don't know is there any element that made you make the switch to a Bolton from logic? Uh, was it just a general like, Oh, you could do this? Oh, you could do that. And yeah, so I mean my view, my view on all dogs is like there's different reasons that you confined to use any of them because they do have different strengths. And so one thing like that, a Bolton is still a little bit behind of which is why I still do use logic sometimes is recording, um, logic and some other dogs have a way of like folding up multiple takes, and you know, if you're any kind of player and you've done loops over and over again, you'll know how much more annoying it is enabled in where you have to actually have them on separate channels and lay them out and mutant solo them. Whereas logic and other programs, you can just swipe your cursor and kind of create this this dynamic comp of any time of any of the layers that you've done. So that is like when I'm still when I have to do complicated recording when I'm doing sample packs, Um, or if I'm doing score stuff where there's just a lot of complex Midi, and all I'm doing is kind of mixing very simple outputs. I like logic for that, I would say it's kind of a classic program, but where I really got into a Bolton was lightning fast audio editing glitches, innovative techniques able to makes it very, very fast to set up your own custom effects racks and processes and just really try different ways of doing things. And it's just so set up for you to try it immediately without having to, like, create something complex or bringing a lot of external plug in. So I've just now noticed that Oh, yeah, I'd like to just instantly pulled this into a sampler and then I wanna like, spread it across here and then I wanna move 10 effects at once, and that just took me maybe four clicks and I'm done now. Logic. Interestingly enough, in the latest update, they've really copied a lot of able to nit's uncanny, but they still they still it's still not quite that same stripped down. Just dig your hands in and edit feeling. So I think that if you're just like trying to do weird, cutting edge, stuff able thing, it's really he does still have the advantage. So when you decide to record, let's say if you're working with audio, you haven't able to in song. But you need to, you know, record multiple takes on something and you decide to use logic. How do you merge those two? Is there a way, or do you just export the audio and then put it in you? So, um, what I used to do? Actually, ah, lot more was used rewire. Um and that's I've always enjoyed things unable to like ways that you edit that logic doesn't have so especially when I used to do re me because I would do the main track and logic, and then I would hook able to known as the rewire slave. So they say and, um, it would just sink to logic and I could just run all the able to stuff. However, that also takes extra CPU, and my production computer is also already kind of choking. Sometimes the things that I do so now usually what I just do is very simple. I'll just bounce and mixed down of whatever I'm working on and just bring it into logic and do the vocal takes and then pull them back out, okay?