So the science behind this, this is okay. So I'll give more of an overview and then we could, we could break it down a little bit claim to reverse engineer a one of nine flying saucers. So obviously the idea is that these flying saucers from another planet, another galaxy, whatever landed on the earth. And now scientists in, you know, Nevada are trying to figure out how to make their own, again reverse engineering. So like basing it off of the spaceship that they see there. Okay. And Lazar claim that the technology behind this flying saucer was like nothing that's ever been seen or discovered before, that it's a antimatter reactor. And I'm going to buy the way, throw around a lot of terms like antimatter and isotope and all these things. I don't know fully what it means. And I will also say that it's very easy to convince someone of a conspiracy when you're using terms that they don't know when you have to take their word for it. Like, for example, in the interview, the guy Lazare, he's like, well this this uh this engine or whatever you want to call it was generating its own gravitational thing. I tried to touch it and it was forcing me aside with an invisible force. Like when you put two batteries together and I'm like, well that doesn't sound right, That's exactly right. Like I'm okay. So I'm reading off the thing now, it says that this wine saucer was fueled by the chemical elements atomic number 1 15, which was later synthesized in 2000 and three under the name Moscow V. Um and I'm just reading it just like, Yes, of course. Yeah, that makes sense. Uh so in any case there are certain the element 1 15 thing is actually, so that part actually is kind of important. And basically it's, what he was saying is that there is a element on the periodic table that was being harnessed in this machine that had never actually been, I guess the word is synthesized before, but then 15 years later it was synthesized on earth. So I think a lot of people see that as like, whoa, how did he know that that was a possible thing. Again, scientifically, I don't know if that's impressive or not. Okay, sounds impressive. Sounds great. That sounds that sounds impressive, Especially for a guy who's other claim to fame was souping up his Honda just before. I don't know, I'd like to see that Honda never could find a picture of that, throw it up on the gram, definitely never existed. Cr V. O. Yeah, so yeah, this is the basic idea of what he claims to do. At first he does it anonymously under the pseudonym Dennis. Then pretty soon after he reveals his identity, claims all this stuff again, this is 1989 and claims all this stuff to wear like newspapers, a local newspaper, the local news station. Yeah. And the interviewer, the newsman who interviews him was also in the documentary and I guess gained some notoriety just from his interactions with bob lazar. I think. And I think he did this because I don't want to skip over the fact that I think he did this because at least this is what he told Joe Rogan was that they caught him telling his friends and they were going to let it. They were essentially fired from this project. They started having a follow, They told him that his wife was cheating on him. So I think he did this to quote unquote, protect himself. Yes, that's that was my understanding to the wife cheating on him. Thing was very interesting. That would mean that they just, they were like, well you told your friends and we'll tell you another secret. Your wives fucking another guy. Wait what? I don't remember this part. Can you explain that the chapters they had his phones tapped and he was like, it's chill. They said they told me they were going to do that, but they didn't tell them that they were listening to his wife's saying sweet nothings to some other guy. Oh no. Until they were literally interrogated. They were like, why would you tell your friends bob? We didn't tell you your wife was fucking you by the way, I'm pretty sure. Still married to this woman. Joy wasn't able to enjoy white. I wasn't exactly. That was that the wife in question? I don't know. That's what Wikipedia. Wikipedia. Only one spouse and that's Joey white. So it doesn't say divorced. I don't know, saying they made it work. Maybe they were in an open relationship. He seems like an open minded guy. This bob lazar, he was busy. Yeah, he seems like a freak. But here's the thing is he seemed like they've made their peace with it because like from his understanding he was like, well she thought I was having an affair because I couldn't tell her what I was doing. So it seems like they've worked through this in couples therapy. Yeah. I kind of let bygones are bygones here. You know what I mean? That is a weird job for a couple therapist to have the most famous Ufo conspiracy theories come in and pretend like he's just a normal client.