Mm. There were two states, Jonathan, that didn't on the doctor Martin Luther King's birthday. That was the state of Arizona and the state of New Hampshire. And when we went through Arizona and we were on tour with you, too, and we played on the zoo tour, and at that time, we this is public enemy, right? Was on tour with you to opened up. We opened up for you to. And, you know, when you two fills a stadium, Jonathan, they filled it up with like, like, 95,000 heads, 100,000 heads or whatever, right? So you can imagine by the time we open up for them already there's, like, maybe 60 5, 70,000 heads already inside the arena. You know, Public Enemy was real hot that year, man. We were on fire, bro. Everybody wanted to see our show, but we were in protest because Arizona wasn't honoring Dr Martin Luther King's birthday. So we got out there on the stage and we did our song By the time I get to Arizona. Sona Sona crowd went crazy When we did that song, we did that one song got on one knee, put our hands up in the air, fits up in the air. And we got up and we left the stage. The whole crowd was an outrage. There was an outrage. You know that that year a lot of people got together. And the following year, Dr Martin Luther King's birthday was born in the state of Arizona. So public enemy sparked that. Wow. I had no idea you were doing that. Yeah, we did. We I'm part of that part of that shit, too. That's great. A lot of people don't know that we that we have that up under our belt. You know what I'm saying? But, uh, and I kind of I kind of use it as a bragging, right? I ain't gonna lie. I'm proud of having some bragging rights. You know what I'm saying? You know, at least I like General Muk. Brag. Brag where where I said I was when I really wasn't there and shit, you know, but but I mean, I mean being part of a national holiday or being part of putting a national holiday on the map, I don't know no other musical group in history. That's going to do what public and
the way I want to be remembered, you know, um, like like like I always tell people I always tell people that this one life that we have physically, we only get it physically one time. You know what I'm saying? While we're here, let's try to get all out of life that we can. Let's try to enjoy all out of life that we can Let's have as much fun out of life that we can. And when we die, we become nothing but memories. But we want to be the most innovative. That the most innovative memories, the most positive memories, the most positive, you know, positively talked about. You know what I'm saying? Uh, I just want everybody to know that I tried good at I tried my best at trying to end racism and connecting the whole world, you know, to be together as one. Because no matter what race we come from, what part of the world we live in come from or whatever? No matter what race we come from, we're still all brothers and sisters, and we we must all build the wall of unity, you know, and stick together and build the water unity. That's what it's about. So that's why when it comes down the flavor flavor. No, I don't have one racial, one racist bone in my body. You know what I'm saying? I'm only racist against the ones who are racist. Really? Against me, Like the Ku Klux Klan. Fuck them. Hell with them. You know what I'm saying? And other, uh, other supremacist groups, you know? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, man, That racial shit, man. We need to We need to cut this racism shit, man. You know what I'm saying? A lot of And I mean, it built up a lot more now that a lot of white police killed a lot of black men. So that built the racial tension up more. Now, you know what I'm saying in the whole nine. But somewhere along the line, I feel the shit has got to stop. If we want unity, we have to work on unity. You know what I'm saying? We don't get it. We don't get unity by by going out protesting, looting stores, burning shit down. You don't get unity that way. You know what I'm saying? All you're doing is just further. Lee dividing shit, man. You know what I'm saying? In the whole nine? I mean, there are people that that that that are store owners and everything. They closed their stores to come out in the streets to march with us for peace. And these protesters, and then when they come back to their stores, their stores looted up, burnt up. I mean, that's not fair to them after they came out to join us. You know what I'm saying? In the whole nine. And I mean I mean, you can't, um, put it this way. You can't put a fire out with gas. I appreciate your perspective later. I've never I've never had the chance to. Well, I haven't seen you since everything changed regarding this gas, man. You gotta You gotta counteract it. And you've got to put it out with water. You gotta smother it. You know what I'm saying? So I just hope that you know, people would know that when I die, this is what flavor tried to do. This was his mission, you know, to to to connect the whole world. You know, not just here in the United States, but everywhere around the world. I want us all. All races, all languages. I want us all to come together and respect each other and live together. And let's stop all of this fucking war shit. This black against white shit and German against French. And this and that and Chinese against this and that Fuck that doesn't bring it doesn't do anything. It just causes more problems.
How many clocks do you own? A bunch. A bunch. How do you choose? Switch on to where I've been seen that one a lot lately because the rest is in the archives where the archives in Vegas, Uh, where the archives archives is really like from my mom's crib, you know, and everything. So I put everything. It's just storage right now, all kinds of stories. And you always set the time to the same the same time on them. So that one looks like it's setting the time. Oh, yeah, man, I think just telling the truth, it's about 10 minutes behind. Okay, we'll make the battery. Might be slow, but you had one that always said the same time. They always at 12 o'clock. And the reason why is because I had I had no battery in those clocks on purpose, and I set it on 12. 12 o'clock. Means it's point straight up and every day fucking straight up with your dog. Now, six o'clock points straight up and down. Don't try to fucking bullshit over my eyes. You know what I'm saying? You can't get over on me. I'm straight up and down with you. Yes. I thought I I also thought you want some mates because time waits for no man. Oh, I wasn't done. Okay. All right, all right. I ain't jumping. Jumping, Jonathan. First of all, let me say something about Jonathan. Me and Jonathan. We have something in common. Yeah. What is it? Our names. That's right, Jonathan. I'm William. Jonathan. Thank you. When did when did the name flavor Flavor? Um, hold on. Before we go there. Let me finish telling you about the clocks. The clocks clock, baby with the clocks. Tell me all right. Well, anyway, I put my own significance to it, You know what I'm saying? And, you know, um, you know, time is the most important element that we have in our lifetime, and we can't afford to waste none of it. And each second that goes by, you'll never ever see it again in your life. You know what I'm saying? We we gotta Every time this minute hand goes around, we have to use each second to our best value. You know what I'm saying? Um, time waits for nobody. It took time for us to be born, and it's gonna take time for us to die. And I always say, I'm clocking you, gm clocking you. That means I'm paying attention to you, so you can't get fast on me already. Know what time it is right now? What was your next question? Where did where did the name flavor flavor comes from? Uh, came from a guy named that used to watch me. His name was Kevin Starks. You know what I'm saying? Uh, and my name, my the name that I grew up with this Rico R I C c O. Right. Um, I used to always eat a lot of, you know, colorful stuff. You know what I'm saying? Like lifesavers. You know what I'm saying? Um, when it came down to sodas, I used to drink the lemon and the lime sodas orange, cherry grape, all the flavors. I was drinking them all. But I'm the one that took all of the flavors and put them all together one time At first, the next thing you know here they come with a sarsaparilla. Wow. That's what sarsaparilla is. All of the soldiers, Everything together. You know what I'm saying? So So? So he used to call me reek the flavor freak. So when emceeing first came around, everybody had these common names. You know? EMC, Bobby B m c Chucky D M c. You know, Lilly, Lil, You know, I said, Well, I wanted a name that nobody had nobody would want, but yeah, that's gotta mean something. So I I said, let me try EMC flavor. Know what I'm saying? So so then, um, back in those days, we used to say, Yo, Johnny, John. Yo, Lizzie List. Rico Riklis. Elise. Chuck D is the one that started calling me flavor flavor and it stuck.
So you and Chuck D, uh, working together now? Yes. And we've And let me say something false. All of the stuff that you've been hearing, and we never broke up Number one. So everybody is like, Is there going to be a public enemy reunion? What the fuck is there going to be a public? Any reunion reunion for? We never broke up to reunite. You know what I'm saying? Second of all, you know, Chuck D he owns half a public enemy flavor flavor owns the other half public enemy. So, no, you can't kick me out my fucking groups. My shit, fuck anything Chuck and refused to put to perform with me, but he can't kick me out. I mean, this is my shit, you know? So so so, so word. So? So everything that everybody's been hearing and all of that stuff. I mean, only me and Chuck. No. You know what I'm saying in the whole nine, so Yeah, well, yeah, we're together. We're working on new music right now and everything, and it's good music. And I got some good stuff coming at you to You're gonna like it. Yeah. Yeah. I've never been a politician of the group. I always been a the street guy. You know what I'm saying? Around in the neighborhood? I care about what's going on in the neighborhoods. That's what I write about. I write about the problems that goes on in the neighborhood, but in the same record, I try to come up with the salute.