logical subversion. That is a phrase that I'm afraid some americans don't fully understand when the Soviets used the phrase ideological subversion, what do they mean? Ideological subversion is the process which is legitimate over it and open. You can see it with your own eyes all all you have to do. All american mass media has to do is to unplug their bananas from their ears, open up their eyes and they can see it. There is no mystery, there is nothing to do with espionage. I know that espionage intelligence gathering looks more romantic. It sells more the audience through the advertising. Probably that's why your Hollywood producers are so crazy about James Bond type of thrillers. But in reality the main emphasis of the KGB is not in the area of intelligence at all. According to my opinion and opinion of many defectors of my caliber, only about 15% of time money and manpower is spent on espionage as such. The other 85% is a slow process, which we call either ideological subversion or active measures extremely merapi yata in the language of the KGB or psychological warfare. What it basically means is to change the person.
one is able to come to sensible conclusions in the interests of defending themselves, their families, their community and their country. It's a great brainwashing process which goes very slow and is divided into four basic stages, the first one being demoralization. It takes from 15 to 20 years to demoralize the nation. Why that many years? Because this is the minimum number of years, which requires to educate one generation of students in the country off your enemy, exposed to the ideology off the enemy. In other words, Marxist Leninism ideology is being pumped into the soft heads off least three generations of American students without being challenged or counterbalanced by the basic values off Americanism, American patriotism, the result. The result. You can see most of the people who graduated in sixties drop outs or half baked intellectuals are now occupying the positions of power in the government civil service business must media educational system. You are stuck with them. You cannot get rid of them. They are contaminated. They're programmed to think and react to certain stimuli in a certain pattern. You cannot change their mind, even if you if you expose them to authentic information, even If you prove that white is white and black is black, you still cannot change the basic perception and the logical behavior. In other words, this people, uh, the process of demoralization is complete and irreversible. To get rid society of these people, you have you need another 20 or or 15 years to educate a new generation of patriotic, Lee minded and common common sense people who would be acting in favor and in the interests of the United States society. And yet these people have been programmed and, as you say in place, who are favorable to.