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Jordan Firstman on overcoming huge setbacks

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Listen to Jordan Firstman explain to Busy Phillips how he's worked to overcome two huge setbacks in his life within the past year.
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Listen to Jordan Firstman explain to Busy Phillips how he's worked to overcome two huge setbacks in his life within the past year.
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let's discuss it. So Jordan's a performer and a writer. I knew you as a writer mostly, who would like dabble in some performance and I is that how long ago was that instagram post? About a career setback that you had? That? Like, I reached out to you and was like, can we talk, I'm feeling this real hard. How long ago was that? That was january, January, interesting, January 2020, Jordan First Man had basically a fucking heartbreak career heart To heart breaks back in the course of three days. Oh man, Oh my God, it was actually like, I won't I won't go into it too much to protect the other person involved. But I on a sunday night I broke up my boyfriend very much for a very long time, Major relationship, like the whole 20s, the whole 20s, that was that that was what I was like, all the friends were the same, the work was the same, everything was overlapped. Like that was my life. We had spent four years developing a movie together. That was like just about to get financed. So we broke up so that project got killed four years gone. And then like my one thing I was like, okay, I have my show and I have been working on this show, a deeply personal, deeply personal that had been through like a million setbacks and set forwards and like everything in between. That was another four years of my life on Tuesday, Tuesday. The network called to Kill the show. Yeah, after like the week before I had met with them and they were like, it's happening Right? Which is always like, can I just tell you? Because obviously I've worked in this business for 20 years. Mark has worked in this business for longer than 20 years because he's so much older than me. But but that is a thing that has happened to both of us multiple times, where you're told this is happening, I hope you're ready to go to Vancouver or whatever the fuck they say, you know, and then the rug gets pulled out from under you. And first, you know, and and in those moments, to me, it's always the most devastating, and I just when I read your instagram post in january about and it was specific to that project, I my heart was just breaking for you because you could see like every ounce of your creative person had been poured into this thing and you were like, you just you just saw it, you this was your future, this was what was going to happen, you were going to be in production in March on this show, and it got the rug got pulled and you were just like, uh I mean, just this is my impression of it. And but you it felt like you were just like, I'm at a loss. I'm out of fucking loss. Yeah, well, it was my whole life. It was it was every aspect of my life was gone in the course of two days. So I was like, I don't I don't have a partner anymore. I don't have any creative. Everything creatively that I've worked on for the last four years is dead. I don't like, I don't know if I have an apartment, I don't know if I have friends. Like it was everything. And I really thought like, I was like, oh boy, here we go, this is gonna be a bad year, like this is going to be a bad year. And then almost immediately, it was then that friday, that saturday of that same week was the Indie Spirit Awards, where I wrote the Laura Dern song, right, is incredible. That was like, I felt like my first sign of like it's gonna be okay, like this is like you have this like you're okay, good things are coming, this, this will like you're not going to die, and then it's the rest of the year. I mean it's obviously been insane year for a million reasons, but just like my spiritual growth, my my like professional growth, like my personal development has just been on such an upward mend and like I just I was like, I feel like I always like in a sling shot and like those um those like tethers I had and like this show, even though I cared about it so much, like it was creatively and emotionally holding me back because I only cared about it. C let's speak to that for one second, because this is like really good for people to hear um talk a little bit about how putting all of your focus on that thing kind of prevented you from other, exploring other avenues. Well, it was it was like the way I perceived my life, I was like, okay, I put in this is everything I have to say to this point as an artist, this will come out and my life will be what I wanted to be, and like this is the thing, this is the first thing, and it the thing I learned just in general about art, and it's kind of like the gag of Hollywood, but like in order to get anything made you have to put all of yourself into it and it has to be so fucking good. I mean, if you want it to be good, and a lot about some people don't care about that, they're something that is true, it's not on the agenda
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