I did the s no screen test, and the guy in the camera broke one, and they all tried the ice. You hard. Like they I shoot in the room from 1 to 3 hours on. Then they I shoo in 30 rock stage, and and then when you make the camera guy break is thing all right? Little success? Yeah, Absolutely. I mean, I mean, that high stakes scenario I mean, any anything is a is a huge victory, you know, Right, Especially when they're like, I mean, it's snowing there, like see what they do if we don't tell when they're going on and we try not to laugh, Yeah, that's the well, well, they want. They want to see who has nerves about them and who who has been, who has done enough bad gigs where they can somewhat relate to that weird scenario Because, like, if you do enough spots, you know, if you do enough improv spots or stand up spots and you bombed enough times, you know, kind of that feeling of silence and not to expect anything just they keep on going through. Can you, um, find your components and dig deep? Yeah, I mean, yeah. I mean, I'm sure that that that kind of shows like it separates somebody who's, like more of a novice, then to somebody who has poisons, like, got this? Yes. Seven men raining me right the fuck out. No, but that was fun. I was I'm for far better coming now than I was when that happened. How many years ago was that audition? Um, when 80 got hired. So that would have been 13. 14? Yeah, somewhere around there. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, because you were doing improv at on the Chicago mainstage, right? Well, yeah. E t c e T c. But, um, every year, the best thing about those stages every year, either one person from medicine or oh, um, come and watch what you dio and they that year, all them mourn the guy who is Jimmy Fallon's voice. Who's the producer on this? And, uh, I know exactly Rick Carino. He's, uh, friend of every coming. Yeah, um, they all came backstage after the show, and usually one or two person we'll get flown after the screen test flew all of us all six and mourn. Um, right before we left Steve Hagen. Steve Higgins? Yeah, I talked to him and was one time. Then mourn right before he left. Then one of those mhm great town. And then I was done. Yeah, you know, I mean, that's the validation that you're looking for, Especially when you're showcasing for those people, right? And then the ler sin. Then I humbly admit to is Then when Lindsay sugars their producer call me, she's like, here's some introduction. I'm like, yeah, you knowing them all and do my audition And don't get the job. Really? You know the mind if I come and you look banging like literally They told me we love this character doing, uh, some point. I'm like, I'm not, uh well, as a comic, you know, sometimes not. Sometimes most of the time were very hard headed where we're like No, I know what's funniest. I know it's best. I want to show you what I think is the right thing, where when it comes down, the networks and stuff becomes a little more complicated, without a doubt. But they were right this time. I was too excited from that morning Michaels backpack that level my mind. E stopped listening to anyone. What was the character that they told you to do? But that you're like, Yeah. What was that one? The best piece I've ever known is like in city, the one that everyone is like. Oh, man, I could so see Jon Hamm guessing and doing it. And it was a rare, like, simple character for me. And they were assembly a real estate agent. It was scared of the dark. So every new room, there, screaming before they flip the lights when and then they, you know, tell 800 square feeling And, uh, yeah, wow. I mean, it's getting full behind the glass over there. Just you describing it, e I can see I can picture it as soon as you start describing it. And I'm like, Oh, yeah, that's yeah. And that was quick. No, it said, let me dio these half hours. And you know, like sometimes as comics, we lie to ourselves about what's good enough. Like this will be good enough because this season and not to listen or and like Yes, the bosses don't always know what's funnier than us, but they've been want that job, the books and You know, I'm not saying so, but, you know, do the fucking real estate agent who scared of the dark, you fucking moron. Mhm. It's a good tip. That's a good Well, you know what? What's kind of interesting about that story, is it go? It's a weird It's a weird You know how there's weird lessons in comedy that you learn some some early on and then sometimes you like, are like, Oh, this is a lesson that I learned a long time ago. It kind of goes back to listening like with improv. That's like such an important aspect of of improv is just like taking everything in and being present and and being like, Okay, I understand what you're saying. Yes, I'll do that. And I'll do these other characters as well that fit your you know what I mean? Extent again, where I was tragically wrong. Waas like that character I loved like it's my favorite thing ever. And for some reason I still e mean dude. That's what that's what the crazy thing is about. High stakes scenarios is like sometimes, Dude, I've done so many showcases where I've talked myself out of doing a bit that I loved. I've done it so many times and stand up showcases. And then the showcases pass. I don't get the thing. And I'm like, why didn't I stick to my gut? Like Like you learn over and over again. Like, trust your gut Like the longer that you're doing Comedy Haven't I've done it countless times and chair my like to take it That excellent point Making them I mean, where the hero I am, um, like a lot of people ask me question in regards in my disease are what I, um, dio like how amazing and how. And you know, I didn't plan any of this. And holy shit, I started Stand them after three years sick in the room one year ago this month. And the way you just saying about trusting what you believe in your own comedic voice I'm all that day. Was that in Buffalo at the knotty bars when I'm doing the open mikes three minutes working harder on those, Then I didn't on my new set my new face Montreal ascent into that important hand because the sexual are and I want to scream and be a coming and I really quickly was like, Wow, trust, use him and my work up better I worked harder and the beds took care of everything. I didn't have number you in, Tony, you know, the glory of gone touch Tony's hand and pulling out my name. Um um but, um, I am I knew. And I mean, I had to tell myself, remind myself I knew quality rises to the top. And if I bang and then everything else will take care of itself. Yeah, that's great. Advice for any comic listening or any person who is just wanting to succeed at something is trusting yourself. It goes back to that, and and the patients with the quality will rise to the top because that's comments. We all get so frustrated and it's really easy, you know, to see it's really easy for people to see things that other comics kit and get jealous and be like, How come I'm not getting that thing? I'm good to, you know, like it's really easy to play that game, but it's like if I've learned anything like everything happens in due time. Like if you're putting in the right amount of work and putting out the right amount of quality. And that's how I definitely feel about comedy in general. Everything it takes, it takes way longer than you'd like. Well, there's also a Nass pecked to it that we can never talk about, which is you might never be funny because you're incapable of saying something funny or written in or inspiring or resonating ever in your fucking life. So maybe that's why you won't get the job.