Yeah, I mean, there, I would, I don't want to get too deep into it, but I wouldn't even say that there's a lot of things are rooted in the history of the church and how the church came about, at least in Mexico, it's a lot more traditional down there, for sure. You know, the background that a lot of people are coming from our our, you know, very catholic backgrounds and that's the way that they see that church should be done historically, at least. Uh so people who are converted from Catholicism or at least come from that background or that understanding of Catholicism when they kind of transfer over to an evangelical movement, they still bring a lot of those type of uh practices, almost if you want to say so, a lot more traditional, a lot more tradition. I'm not saying that's bad per se, but that's just the way it is, it's just the way it is, right? And I think with uh especially as Pks, I feel like sometimes we are, are kind of uh we're kind of pinpointed to be the people who really pushed the envelope sometimes a little bit too much, right, and we get blamed for that, and and I'm okay taking the blame for that honestly, because I think someone has to be the one to push the envelope, you know, and I think we're um it's uh it's a good thing, change is good. I think transition is good, if if something is is stagnant, it starts to stink, right? It's just God is a god of change. He wants to the church to being changed in transition, thank goodness. We don't live by old testament law anymore, right? Changing this. And that's something that I'm like, well you guys still want to buy it, buy, you know, all these, all these laws, then you got to abide by all of them right now we're going to law and great, I don't want to go exactly. But anyways, uh, I think the problem that I have with a lot of tradition is not so much the tradition itself for the practices, but a lot of the practices carry along, uh, traditional mindsets or, or old ways of thinking and that's kind of where I'm like, okay, well, you know, I don't have a problem with, with how you want to go about doing or looking or how you think necessarily church will look like, but when we start antagonizing other people because they're not following the way we like to do things, then I think it becomes a problem. But anyways, and that's true, not just in demographic culture, to culture. That's true. And so many other capacities politically, socially, economically, like just because we don't see eye to eye on every single thing doesn't mean that we still can't break bread together. Like jesus didn't see eye to eye would do this all the time or the Pharisees all the time. But he, those are still the people that he won brought into his circle, brought to his table and he knew even that these people had value. Like I need to reach these people, I need to be able to communicate with them, work with them. And that's a beautiful thing when two people from different backgrounds can get together and create something special for sure.