crazy salad is almost exclusively about women, which is fair enough. I guess you are considered one of the leading spokes women spokespersons for the Women's Liberation Movement, although I assume you would disavow that identification, you assume correctly Why? Well, because I don't think I speak for anyone but myself. And and if you've had anything to do with the women's movement, you find out very quickly that there is no way to speak for it. Um, so there you are. I guess it would be a little like speaking for a kaleidoscope, wouldn't it? Yes, it's a very wide group of people, as any movement is, really, and they have trouble getting together on most things, and some of them consider me this hopeless revisionist, and some of them consider me right on, and some of them think I'm you know, I don't know what, but there's no way you can speak for a movement that that really disagrees as much as it does well, on second thought, I take the whole thing back my whole remark because I remember how well you took them apart in a couple of the pieces in here. After attending some meetings you were not awfully impressed with some of the meetings. I think Well, you know, in one way it's not fair because theoretically, if we really believe in women's live, we ought to believe that women can be as abusive to one another as men are. But still, when I went, for example, to the Democratic convention in Miami and watch the amount of time and energy that was wasted in squabbles over who was going to open which session it was, it was rather disheartening to me. What, incidentally, is Betty Friedan doing now? Um, well, the last I read, which was yesterday, she was attacking Gloria Steinem again. So I had the feeling that nothing had changed at all. It's a little old, Um, she was also in Mexico City for the International women's Here, which may explain why so little happened there. Well, what what's the future? What's going to happen? Finally, Well, things just simmer down and women will get the same treatment as everybody else, and I don't think so at all. I think I think that that basically and I don't know, you understand that I'm winging this, but I think that it's not going to be about the women's movement per se as it was three or four years ago. We're not going to have big demonstrations and things like that. What we are going to have is more of the right women elected to office, um, many more legal victories, and that will be going on on one side. On the other side. I think there's no question but that the message of the movement.