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Patton Oswalt on Happy Sad Confused Podcast with Josh Horowitz

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Patton Oswalt guest stars on Happy Sad Confused with Josh Horowitz to reveal how he got into cult films and why Kevin Kostner is a modern Nostradamus.
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Patton Oswalt guests on the podcast Happy Sad Confused with Josh Horowitz. Patton reveals how he got into cult films + Why Kevin Kostner is a modern Nostradamus
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to talk to you. Okay. We're gonna geek out a little bit today about some of your favorite movie. Some of your favorite b movie, some of your favorite comfort movie. But I wanna go back first to how you formed your movie. Tastes as a kid. Did you have? Ah. Was it from your parents? Was it from a friend? Was it from a sibling who was the influencer in your life that helped kind of chart your path as a movie lover? You know, I grew up in the seventies, so I think I'm of the generation that our influencer was purely chance. There wasn't really the structure in place for movie freaks to be, um, dipping into the, uh Oh, go see this. This is a lot really Early one was. I mean, I guess there was a book called The Golden Turkey Awards, which is the first place that I ever heard about. You know, people like Ed Wood, stuff like that. And then, um, and again, a lot of the movies that they were saying we're shitty in this, uh, book sounded fascinating to me. You know, they mean the golden Turkey awards list stuff like Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid and the Texas Chainsaw Massacre and Pink Flamingos, which are all just brilliant, brilliant fucking movies. Um, so you know, I that, But But But really, before that, it was whatever. I just happened to come across on TV or just ran. And by the way, that's what makes a lot. I think the first wave of riel cult movies, like Plan nine from Outer Space, for instance they really do have a cult quality because they because there was no structure, they really were just shown at 2 a.m. On some local station, and someone would watch it years later, meet someone else who had also randomly seen it, and they would share their thoughts on it. And it really did have a truly a viral, um, second life. Uh, but then, you know, then I think the structure, the infrastructure, um, kind of fell into place in the eighties and nineties, and it became an industry off finding cult stuff. And then some stuff was like prematurely tried. People try to make stuff cult like, remember Showgirls, You know, there was, like, a very aggressively early cult around that, and then just kind of didn't stick. It's just not a great movie. It just isn't. I know you like. There's like There's fiasco bad, which you're like Wow, I really can't believe this is happening And then there's just bad. It's just bad, you know, like a a true cult movie has to take time. You cannot force it. I have a soft spot. I don't know about you and this doesn't necessarily fit some of the ones that you're gonna mention. I think in a little bit. But I have a soft spot for, like, the epic failures for, like, $150 million like there was never a better 12 punch for me than when Kevin Costner did Waterworld and The Postman in back to Back years. It was It was weird. Waterworld and The Postman, yeah, are massively epic failures that both start off with. It also shows you you could have the grain of an interesting idea. There's really interesting ideas in those movies. They just don't execute them and all the stuff with how they work out, like how Kevin Costner makes that boat work in Waterworld is kind of brilliant, like you don't thought and design and character work were put into those sequences. But it's in the middle of all this other selling us that you just like, Why didn't you just put a little more work into the other shit so that we wouldn't be, you know, constantly being taken out of it and then the postman, which again? I mean, it's a little slow and weird, but e remember seeing it, remember, is very specifically going to see that at the Alhambra in San Francisco with Greg Proofs and Dave Anthony. And we were laughing. Our ass is off the whole way through, but now we're in 2020. And that movie seems to take place in the aftermath of the riots over a disputed election. And and, um, will patents. Character is kind of, ah, kind of a proud boy, Patriot prayer type guy that, like you know, So there's weird and and and also you know, there's, um, I think my brother pointed out Tom Petty shows up out of nowhere out of that, who knows where. I mean, he's trying to be an influencer, I guess. I mean, you know, my brother pointed out on Twitter, you know. Now, with the polar ice caps melting and the president trying to shut down the Postal Service, I think we owe Kevin Costner a big apology because he kind of called a couple things in those movies. And what was really tragic about those two movies back to back was the movie he made after that is a movie a Western called Open Range, which is a legitimately brilliant, Oscar worthy film. But because Kevin, the name Kevin Costner had become this shorthand for a boy, no one went and saw it. And it's a it's a fucking brilliant movie. Yeah, that's a good call, and you could go back to its like he directed that one. He directed it. It's a great story, like nonstop, great performances. He's great in it. Duval's great and that bending is great. And I mean, it's just nonstop good and but at the time and was like, Oh, God, another Kevin Costner. I can't and it's too bad because that was really, really good
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