Keywords: OSHA, Safety, Jay Allen, Sheldon Primus, COSS, COVID-19, ETS, Emergency Temporary Standard, Joe Biden, Donald Trump, Vaccine, Anti-vaccine, mask, anti-mask, EHS, Safety FM, America, Hospitals, Hazard, Control, UVC lights, wastewater, Florida[00:00:02] spk_2: this episode is[00:00:03] spk_1
Publish Date: Oct 20, 2021
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Keywords: OSHA, Safety, Jay Allen, Sheldon Primus, COSS, COVID-19, ETS, Emergency Temporary Standard, Joe Biden, Donald Trump, Vaccine, Anti-vaccine, mask, anti-mask, EHS, Safety FM, America, Hospitals, Hazard, Control, UVC lights, wastewater, Florida[00:00:02] spk_2: this episode is[00:00:03] spk_1: powered by[00:00:05] spk_2: safety FM.[00:00:10] spk_1: Welcome to the safety consultant podcast. I am your host, Sheldon promise this is to show where I teach you the business of being a safety consultant. Welcome.[00:00:24] spk_2: What[00:00:26] spk_1: I got this week is something a little bit different. I'm gonna warn you already. This episode will contain swear words. So I'm just letting you know from time to time I do release the monster within. So maybe jim puzzle keeps saying I'm the most relaxed man ever. And I tell them, you know, Valium runs through my blood just jokingly. But it's really, I get triggered on some stuff and this is one of the things that I do get triggered on. And that is our response to the SARS co coronavirus[00:01:09] spk_0: too.[00:01:12] spk_1: And now the COVID-19 vaccines. So as the safety community is, we're just kind of topsy turvy with this. It's become political. You just, you know, you don't want to mention the words vaccine or Covid or anything like that. Just like you wouldn't say politics or religion or something. It's become that. And then to boot, you can't have a conversation. Uh, one way to the next without people getting so butt hurt that, you know, you're losing friendships for it. Uh, both sides are guilty. I had my own bouts. So I'm not, there weren't any stones in any way. But uh, we, and when I say we, it's me and my special guest today and other than J allen of safety F. M DR J Allen and I, we go back now a few years and uh, we, we seem to talk frankly with each other and this is one of those frank conversations that we have regarding the response that we've been having as a safety community and how disjointed it has been. And we haven't been the leaders we should be regarding this really, really, really, really important situation. So is such like a tunnel topic that not everybody wants to talk about. So we decided we'll take it on and you know, when we and get together, as you can hear in many of our past episodes, we get kind of revel it wherever it yeah, that's probably the best way to say it, but there is some good underneath everything. Right? So we also talk about virtual events during this time. What do you think it looks like? What should it look like? And what's the fair thing to do? And even some entities who are trying to make virtual events where even you yourself or like avatars or sims instead of truly embracing the virtual nature and expanding the things you can do because your virtual, So that's one of the things that we really were going over some of the things we're going over. But he even laid down the gauntlet and tell me, hey, if you want change so much, why don't you facilitate it? And then later on, before the interview ends, he asked me about my big announcement that I wanted to do and the big announcement Brooklyn Brain for a second and I did not want to admit it. But since you're listening to this episode right now, you already know a little bit of what that big announcement was. I am moving to dystopia dot[00:04:00] spk_2: com. I[00:04:02] spk_1: was actually thinking there is four are actually two students that I ask them some questions this week. Well when I finished up my class on monday and getting their perspective on safety right now and I was like like that student perspective, I wonder if I could get one from J two as industry, you know, pro and also not only are you industry pro, but you have the unique ability of seeing so many different people and then having to deal with them. You might have a good understanding of some of these things as well. I'm just saying.[00:04:37] spk_0: Well I mean I don't know if I have a good understanding of it, I can tell you what I what I see across the board. Uh it's it's interesting that we're still stuck two years ago, I guess that's really what I see a lot of as of late and what do I mean by that? Well we all had like this this whole thing that we had planned out on how the world was going to continue turning and all that. And then there was this little thing that occurred that was known as the pandemic and people did not know how to alter what they were doing from normal work to digital and when the digital portion kicked in, it's almost like all safety programs for the most part on what I'm seeing across the board, uh, went out the window and we forgot how to do safety. It became Now all of a sudden only about PP and don't get me wrong, I'm not saying PP is not part of safety, but all of a sudden it was the cleaners we could use. It is the whole aspec