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Markovian Parallax Denigrate may seem like a bunch of random words, but it's actually one of the first unsolved internet mysteries, appearing on Usenet in 1996.
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Markovian Parallax Denigrate may seem like a bunch of random words, but it's actually one of the first unsolved internet mysteries, appearing on Usenet in 1996.
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So the Marko Vian Parallax Denigrate is a relatively simple mystery assed faras. The timeline or the story that encapsulates what went down Really like many of the mysteries that I find the most interesting, this one lives the most in its theories in and trying to answer what was behind it, who it was, etcetera. Without further ado, why don't we dive right into the timeline of Marko Vian? Parallax? Denigrate? So this goes back to August 5th 1996 and hundreds of messages start appearing across several different user net group postings. Now, if you listen to this show for a long time, I've talked about the use net services back in the Satoshi Nakamoto episode when we discuss Bitcoin, but I'll download a little bit more information about that for you now and here and again with these technical centric topics, I'll try to keep it as Lehman is possible. Just common terms. Try to make it as simple as possible. And if and if I oversimplify it or Miss explained things, bear with me. I'm not a super coder. I try to understand these topics the best of my own ability. You know what I mean, but let's get in there. Use Net essentially allows users to communicate via groups from one PC to another. Across the world, users can read and post messages to each other via specific categories known as news groups, and this eventually pave the way for what you would know as today's Internet forums. But those familiar to old school computing and computers back in the day, you might recognize a similarity here. Between this and the bulletin board system. Essentially, posts in a use net are organized by threading of certain topic and replying to each other. But they all appear sequentially in the order that posts were made. So that's the quick and dirty on what using it is now. Hundreds of messages are appearing on this one day in particular back in 96 the majority of these posts are being made in different Christian groups. Uh, I have a handful here, a list of them, and I'll read off a couple of them. But essentially, that's the main point here. Some of the Christian groups were named things like all dot religion Christian or rec dot music dot christian or u K dot religion dot Christian or all dot fans dot jesus Dash Christ. So there's that's that's kind of the address of a use of a use net. Kind of kind of similar to a website, right? But again, just just for the sake of it, using it kind of predated the Internet very similar in a lot of ways, but also different in other ways that aren't necessary to dive into. So in addition to the Post made in each of these groups, some individual users also received strange messages themselves. Each message was a string of seemingly random words, so no one really thought much of it at the time. And this is also why it's such a mystery again and why this has lost to time. Because when these messages came up there like, Well, this just looks like spam or this is meaningless moving about my life. So what were these messages in, like dems or something like that? Like private messages or Yeah, it sounds like some of them were posted publicly in these these threads, right? And then others were messages towards specific people. Okay, so this was sent via D. M. And sometimes it was just to the group. Yeah, yeah, replied to like the group or the person in, like, a public forum or something. You could almost think of it as a reddit post, as opposed to a subreddit, which is a collection of post. You just think of one post within that subreddit. Think of that as the EU's Net group. You see all the comments you can order them from new to old. That's how they would be displayed. There's threading or you could d. M a specific person instead. But fortunately, and perhaps maybe the only reason why this mystery is even known to us these days. One of the messages was actually saved an archived, and I have that message for you here. If you want to see the raw message, we will post a screen shot of that as always on our social pages at Red Web pod. But I want to read this whole thing. There's a lot of gibberish in here, but I want to read it just so you could get a strong idea of what this message kind of is about. And there's a couple key words in here that I want you to listen for that I might come back to, which is why I wanna read the whole thing. Here is the body of one of the more popular messages from this event, and it's worth noting that this message was also in the ault dot religion dot christian dot Boston Dash Church group. It goes as follows Quote jitterbugging McKinley Abe break Newtonian inferring caught Update. Cohen hair collaborate Rue Sports writing Raw cocoa indicate tosel shad flower Debbie Sterling pathogenesis escrito oir advantages Novo i t. T. Most Chairperson Dwight Herzog Different Pinpoint dunk McKinley Pendant Firelight Uranus Episodic medicine Didi Craggy flogging Various brotherhood Web Impromptu file. Continents Inheritance cohesion Refrigerate. Morphine Napkin Inland. Janiro Unnameable Yearbook hark End quote. That's probably the weirdest thing I've ever had to quote in my life. We just make it a whole bunch of stuff. You just messing with me now. None of that. Yeah, you get the point. It is a long list of random words. McKinley's in there twice. Web is a proper noun. W E B B will come back to that in the theories Dwight Herzog, or at least the name Herzog. I feel like has cropped up in another mystery of ours randomly something that comes to mind but interesting. That's that's the message. Whole bunch of just jumbled mess is yes, yes, and the subject line of the message was Marko Vian parallax denigrate. Interestingly, each message was from a different email address, and there seemed to be little to no correlation between any of them. The length of the posts themselves also very greatly, and the post did not continue after this day. So essentially August 6 boom. Hundreds of messages. The next day it's crickets again. But most of these messages, or at least to the best of our understanding, had this very same subject line. Marko Vian, parallax, denigrate Hence the namesake for this mystery. Yeah, that that is essentially everything we know or believe. We know from this whole event, and the rest is really trying to decipher the very limited information we have about this and everyone's popular theories around that kind of deciphering. But the main question worth asking here is why the name Marko Vian parallax denigrate, You know, what is that supposed toe mean? Like what? Z importance there. So this is just the time before the Internet or like earlier Internet days. Random jumble messages, it seems. Yeah, it seems like it could just be random or generator, you know, And and there seems to be some sort of importance here with this. We'll see. That's why you know, imagine you're in 96 you're in one of these Christian groups and you get a message that reads like this. And, you know, one thing worth mentioning here is that this is this is essentially spam. And at this point in time span wasn't like, super prolific. It wasn't super common like it is today, where you constantly get texts and calls and emails from junk like the first riel instance of major spam use on use Net to my to my research was earlier in the nineties and 1994 where a law firm essentially used to use net groups to blast out advertisement for themselves. So, essentially, even though spam isn't super common, people have heard of situations like this happening on using it. And so you imagine you get something that looks like a garbled mess like this, You would imagine that you'd probably gloss over it, that you wouldn't put much stock in this and you'd continue using your group as designed and forget about this, which is almost
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