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Publish Date: Sep 17, 2021
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today. So who wants to kick off I suppose is thinking about this subject in the context of I suppose there's a linking in with the podcast as a social political matter, but also as in social workers, how we think about poverty. Yeah. I wonder if it be helpful to start with a definition initially. And I suppose it's recognizing I guess it's quite contested in some ways, isn't it? It's not necessarily a clear one. But I know now do you with having a think about that? Yeah. I was having a look for some definitions and some some of them. I felt basically the one that I'm going to read out, I feel is the one that's the clearest. And like you say, there are all kinds of different definitions and how numbers don't quite fear, you know, it's all relative. But anyway, here is what the the definition that I feel that works well for me. It's his firstly, poverty is not quite the same thing as having a low income people and families can have different fixed costs to contend with like childcare, housing costs associated with disability as well as different levels of savings or assets to draw upon. And so what the actual definition used by a number of international world organizations such as the U. N. And the World Bank is that poverty is when you cannot afford the basic needs of life such as food, clothing, shelter and so on. So I thought that was really clear and really helpful. Where did you get that definition from? So it's from the UK's independent fact checking charity is called full fact if you go on full Factor or there's loads of information about poverty and as well as loads of other things, but just for the purpose of this episode, can check that out. I heard you say that definition in the warm up, but I don't think I was actually listening and I should go back and listen to our episode and activists haven't improved listening to you say again. It just makes me really think about how it kind of links in with a lot of our values around thinking about problems in a systemic way. So looking at not only the individual, but all of the contextual factors around the impact on how somebody is in a position of poverty. So it's not just about or you're earning X amount or Yeah, that's why you're right. But then the impact of austerity, maybe you the cost of living in London compared to the cost of living somewhere else. Your money will in another area, your money will travel further and then pressures of bills and the cost of having Children and stuff like that. And it just makes me think that poverty Is something that we're having a discussion about now, but the 35, 40 minutes that we talk about now is not enough time to really, really dissect Children really get into the impact of poverty on society when in social work practice a lot of the families that will engage with Yeah, I was just thinking about how, you know, you know, sometimes I think, well I know I've been guilty of this has been like, I'm so poor right now or you know, like yeah, I'm feeling so poor and how the pressure of that that feels like sometimes when you can't go out or you can't buy certain things that you can't do certain things, let alone that be in your day to day or your every day. And I'm just thinking about how that feels for me in that moment, I feel restricted, I feel pressured. I feel kind of overwhelmed of emotion, but it's usually only very, you know, fleeting until I get paid again. But just imagine how that is for people on a day to day, if that's their day to day.