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logical subversion. That is a phrase that I'm afraid some americans don't fully understand when the Soviets used the phrase ideological subversion, what do they mean? Ideological subversion is the process which is legitimate over it and open. You can see it with your own eyes all all you have to do. All american mass media has to do is to unplug their bananas from their ears, open up their eyes and they can see it. There is no mystery, there is nothing to do with espionage. I know that espionage intelligence gathering looks more romantic. It sells more the audience through the advertising. Probably that's why your Hollywood producers are so crazy about James Bond type of thrillers. But in reality the main emphasis of the KGB is not in the area of intelligence at all. According to my opinion and opinion of many defectors of my caliber, only about 15% of time money and manpower is spent on espionage as such. The other 85% is a slow process, which we call either ideological subversion or active measures extremely merapi yata in the language of the KGB or psychological warfare. What it basically means is to change the person.
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