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Yeah, okay. It's talking football with rob Daniels and Vince Tracy and we're looking at spine and la liga and of course we will look at the Premier League as well, join us on the podcast each week talking football rob Daniels and Vince Tracy. So a very good day everybody welcome to a very, very hot spain still but it's cooling down a little. It's been absolutely dreadful last week. Far too hot. 43. There should be an office we can write to but we can't, we just have to live with it and we have to watch how the spanish people handle it and learn from them. I'm going to go down to an area which in spanish, I am told by rob Daniels has often been described as botch and also which is muggy and certainly let's hope it's not as but you know, so as as maybe it can be so good morning to you, rob. How are you? What you are the like and how are you feeling? Yeah, Good morning Vince. Good morning everybody. I'm fine actually. Thanks Vince. Um yeah, this box will also watch Elena. It describes when it is very hot but it's overcast and it's very, very humid and the last week has been absolutely dreadful, isn't it? Um, Today I haven't been out yet, but the sun is actually shining today. So that actually takes the temperature down a little bit. Although you, you'll get the full hit off the sun. You don't get the same effect of humidity. So I think all the locals are happy when you see spanish people, I'm complaining about the hot weather. Um and they used to it. They lived there all their lives. Then you realize that it is hot weather, don't you? And the last week everybody has been suffering. Okay, well look, we're suffering with the heat. And I always try to think of the perspective of really, you know how lucky we are despite the fact that it's very hot. I remember when I was coming to spain, a friend told me if you can learn to live in july and august, then you'll love living in Spain. And I think that's a particular advice was good advice. Um and we only have a couple of weeks left of august, although the summer did seem to start slowly this year. Let's hopefully think that the month of september will be a little kinder to us now. What isn't a bit kinder in the world at the moment is the behavior of the Taliban and the way that they treat people in Afghanistan. And of course it's not the remit of this podcast to really get involved in the politics of the taliban. The the abandoning of Afghanistan by America and the UK. But I think most people that might have studied anything about that country will realize the same happened to Russia. You can't win a war in Afghanistan. We've been told that many many times. And yet we still seem to think that we can dabble in the politics of another country. Why should we do that? The answer can quick quickly come through football even because I'm reading. But obviously all the progress that's been made and the year that was pinpointed was around 20, I think it was 2011, that they felt that they had started to really make the inroads. Um then obviously any female who now enjoys playing football will obviously be thinking that's the end of it. I won't be able to play football in Afghanistan. Um despite what the Taliban say, because they're now telling people they're gonna treat women better uh within the same sentence, they practically have street executions for a lady not wearing a burka. And if you don't know the burka, let me just remind you it's the most oppressive, horrible, ridiculously stupid thing to make a woman have to wear when a man doesn't have to wear it. Um I'm dabbling here because we're talking in other people's cultures, but I do know um that what I see is not what I believe is the way that women should be treated and um you know, these guys uh to me, they don't respect what brought them into this world. However, the sadness of knowing that young girls who could now play football, who could now go to school, who could now be educated, It looks like that will come to an end. That's what I think should be a a benchmark of what we're talking about here. Plus of course, uh let athletes in gen in a general sense. Um it's probably all going to become repressive again and I do feel exceedingly sorry. Um the people who have tasted freedom now go back to feeling repressed, rob. I'm sure you feel the same. Oh, it's a dreadful situation. What's happening, isn't it? Vince? Um Nobody's ever been able to deal with the Afghans, are they? I mean, the the situation of the Khyber pass the border between Pakistan and Afghanistan was the beginning of the downfall of the british empire, wasn't it? They just couldn't, it was where they got cough, basically. Not that I'm in favor of the Empire, but it is part of history. So yeah, nobody's ever been able to deal with them. Um But the way things are going at the moment, it does look very, very tragic, doesn't it? And in a football sense, they do have God did have um women's football association um because but because women like to play football and and a lot of people in Afghanistan want to be like modern world, people don't they want they want to be able to choose what they're doing things like that. But there's a woman called, she's called Khalida Popal Popil. I'm not sure our last name is pronounced, that she is one of the leaders of the Afghanistan women's football association and she's actually escaped to Denmark. But what, what she's advising all of the female players to do. And this is what she's actually said, he's escaped from neighbors who know them as pioneering players and try to erase their history, particularly active. That activism against the Taliban who are now re establishing the Islamic emirate of Afghanistan. I've been encouraged to take down social media channels, take down photos, escape and hide themselves. Now, that is the woman who is like the the pioneer of female football in Afghanistan publicly saying to any woman who a girl who has played football in recent years in Afghanistan is basically to hide themselves and get out as soon as they can. Now, that is tragic, isn't it? Apart from all the other innocent people are involved doing all sorts of other different activities that the Taliban for some reason don't like. Um but in a football centuries he's it was foreseeable, wasn't it Vince, let's face it. I mean, I don't get involved in politics. I just find the whole situation very, very sad. Well, I I do get involved in politics because basically a number of years ago now, probably about 11 years ago, um the idea was that we look at things that are being deliberately hidden or suppressed and you see this isn't being deliberately hidden or suppressed is being totally carried out before our very eyes. And what I really understand. So very little about is why women can be so much for women's rights and loud and shouting and protesting. And this happens. And I've not seen any protests in the roads and the sort of things that happened for taking the knee, which again, you know, is not really acceptable. If you go to the roots of the organization which is promoting this, taking the knee business now, without being sidelined or taken to a different area. What I'm thinking is why aren't the women's football clubs and the women's football associations around the world at least showing solidarity in some respect with the lady footballers of Afghanistan, You know, And anyway, I'll leave it there because I think, I think they probably will be doing um as from now on vince. But as you say, this is a situation which is changing day by day, isn't it? It's changing more or less on an hourly basis. Uh that the main problem, I think for anybody who's in Afghanistan at the moment is the fact that if the taliban don't like, they'll just shoot you on on the spot, are execute you in any kind of manner. But yeah, I think the there will be support for the female footballers around the world. But realistically, what can anybody do? I mean, it's out of governments control. The states have lost it. Our government. Well, it's completely the Taliban. The taliban had basically taken back over, haven't they within the space of about a week. I think what it shows really is that when it suits politicians they do things not for the people that they're supposed to help. Um, they do it for whatever purposes they do. Um, you know, America withdrew support, UK withdrew support and immediately all that money that's been invested in the Afghanistan army is now totally and utterly a waste. We're getting trapped into this. I'm going to move on to a football that you obviously um, spotted because we did mention this with eric Gerhard Mueller, one of the all time greats. You've got something to tell us about why he quit football, haven't you? Yes, well, good. Well, unfortunately passed away earlier this week, 75 years old. And it was one of these Alzheimer's cases, which is a recurring theme in so we can discuss those kind of possibilities another day. But oh, yes, he had, he was one of the first players, I remember when I was a kid actually, the 1974 World Cup and he's called the winning goal in the World Cup. But the reason he left international football after 62 matches and 68 goals, which is not a bad record in international football. Is it 62 matches and 68 goals? Um Yeah. Oh, fantastic. I mean, his record as a player was absolutely fantastic, but he did use his head a lot and he went in hard, however, and the reason he left international football, it was just after the World Cup in 1974 because he was one of the first generations of german people born post war, post Second World War, it was born in 1945. So they had a different way of thinking in the older people if you like. And the reason he left international football is because they had a post World Cup winning um sort of dinner dance evening and the players wives weren't invited. But all of the officials, all of the sort of like higher ups in the german football association, their wives were invited. So good miller is a young man. He decided he wouldn't put up with this and he refused to play for the west german team again because they wouldn't allow The players wives into a dinner dance, which going back to the 1970s when this was and all of the older blocks will have been sort of pre war kind of german blocks, I would imagine that was standing up for something that he actually believed in and he didn't play for them again. He could have done, he could have, he could have carried on for him for years, but he refused to play for them. And after that nice background for that because you're right, it was a nice nice blokes have to see him. I'm still of the opinion. I don't know his lifestyle, but that's where I would start looking for clues because football, yes, there was a time when we had a football with a heavy casing a lace and all sorts of things that would legislate for heading the ball and getting problems. Probably at a later point in your life. That's great after the event. But a lot of people didn't get Alzheimer's. So I would think there's a probably a stronger link with football drinking and eating and lifestyle. That's where I would be looking right vince. Well, that's um, well, not strange, should have mentioned it because I know that's what you, your viewpoint and I tend to agree He did go in hard. He was, he was only a small part was only five ft 9, which is one of 75. So he relied on his speed, not on his height and not on his strength and he's got a lot with his head. But then after he finished playing football, well after the leaving West Germany business, he did have problems in his personal life and because it's got the winning goal in the World Cup
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