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065: Sarah Von Bargen of Yes and Yes on What Going Face Down In A Bowl Of Pizza Rolls Is Trying To Tell You + What That Has To Do With Dancing with Richard Simmons Your success in life (not just of the $$$ variety) correlates directly to how uncomfortable you're willing to be.
If you're a client, you know how much I geek out about the brain and our ability to change it (neuroplasticity) no matter how old you are. Well- I found someone equally fascinated by it - Sarah Von Bargen of the popular blog, Yes and Yes.
Find out how you can do everything right and follow all the rules and still find yourself on a life's journey full of plot twists and turns.
In today's episode, we cover the gamut from how Sarah got started as a blogger (she was broke as a joke and $50k in debt with a $16/hour job) to the power of habits backed by science and how going face down in a bowl of pizza rolls is trying to tell you something to what it's like having a Myer's Briggs different than 98% of the population and how to not piss people off by judging them for not having their shit all together to how she found herself in the middle of a dance circle with Richard Simmons - yes - THAT Richard Simmons.
A weirdly, wonderful conversation (my favorite)...
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SARAH VON BARGEN is a writer, educator, and coach who helps people spend their money, money, and energy on purpose.&nbsp;
Website | Instagram
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For show notes head over to jenvertanen.com/goingthere65 and if there&rsquo;s one thing I want you to remember ever it&rsquo;s this&hellip;
Healing is possible and it starts with #radicalhonesty.
I believe in you so effing much and I&rsquo;m here if you ever need an emotional sidekick to help you through tough times.
Until next time&hellip;love you already.
_____
Love the sorts of fly-on-the-wall intimate conversations I&rsquo;m hosting on Going There? It would mean the WORLD if you leave a rating/review on iTunes/Apple Podcasts/ Google Play and share with folks most needing these messages of hope, resilience, healing, and yes&hellip;laughter at some of the darker sides to life.
Website: www.jenvertanen.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/goingtherewithjen
My Fave Really Hard Questions: jenvertanen.com/really-hard-questions/ (because you guys know how much I love digging deeper!)See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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065: Sarah Von Bargen of Yes and Yes on What Going Face Down In A Bowl Of Pizza Rolls Is Trying To Tell You + What That Has To Do With Dancing with Richard Simmons Your success in life (not just of the $$$ variety) correlates directly to how uncomfortable you're willing to be.
If you're a client, you know how much I geek out about the brain and our ability to change it (neuroplasticity) no matter how old you are. Well- I found someone equally fascinated by it - Sarah Von Bargen of the popular blog, Yes and Yes.
Find out how you can do everything right and follow all the rules and still find yourself on a life's journey full of plot twists and turns.
In today's episode, we cover the gamut from how Sarah got started as a blogger (she was broke as a joke and $50k in debt with a $16/hour job) to the power of habits backed by science and how going face down in a bowl of pizza rolls is trying to tell you something to what it's like having a Myer's Briggs different than 98% of the population and how to not piss people off by judging them for not having their shit all together to how she found herself in the middle of a dance circle with Richard Simmons - yes - THAT Richard Simmons.
A weirdly, wonderful conversation (my favorite)...
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SARAH VON BARGEN is a writer, educator, and coach who helps people spend their money, money, and energy on purpose.&nbsp;
Website | Instagram
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For show notes head over to jenvertanen.com/goingthere65 and if there&rsquo;s one thing I want you to remember ever it&rsquo;s this&hellip;
Healing is possible and it starts with #radicalhonesty.
I believe in you so effing much and I&rsquo;m here if you ever need an emotional sidekick to help you through tough times.
Until next time&hellip;love you already.
_____
Love the sorts of fly-on-the-wall intimate conversations I&rsquo;m hosting on Going There? It would mean the WORLD if you leave a rating/review on iTunes/Apple Podcasts/ Google Play and share with folks most needing these messages of hope, resilience, healing, and yes&hellip;laughter at some of the darker sides to life.
Website: www.jenvertanen.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/goingtherewithjen
My Fave Really Hard Questions: jenvertanen.com/really-hard-questions/ (because you guys know how much I love digging deeper!)See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
064: Susan Shehata on The Intersections of Race, Culture, and Trauma Susan Shehata is a woman of many (MANY) talents but all of them boil down to this; Susan's work centers around helping people identify and unwind the limiting beliefs or the limiting stories - the core stories that keep us stuck.
The first half of this episode has us talking about the many healing modalities Susan employs including space work, breath work, and core story work in which she's developed her own process including the simple system she's created to identify our stories around worth, lovability, belonging, safety, competency, power, and freedom and how those core stories become our subconscious operating system driving how we show up in the world.
This is all absolutely fascinating stuff but it gets even better...
Susan and I talk about her work as a trauma educator and how she's helping in the anti-racism front. Susan says - racism is one of the largest, if not the largest, collective and historical traumas. Historical because of course, it goes back so long and collective because it has not been resolved. So unlike some historical traumas that perhaps we can speak of in past tense, racism is obviously and unfortunately, alive and well.
I don't want to give it all away but Susan gets personal with her own stories of technically being white but of Middle Eastern descent and how that's informed her own core stories around safety and belonging.
What excites Susan? The fact that we are collectively having very hard conversations.
Amen.
Ours is a rich conversation that intersects race, culture, and trauma - all so timely and relevant to the here and now.
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SUSAN SHEHATA is a Wellness Educator and Social Entrepreneur, who specializes in helping people transform their stories, by identifying and releasing the limiting beliefs that keep them stuck. She does that through speaking, writing, wellness services, educational programs, business masterminds and events.
From the creative merging of her former eco-friendly shop with a healing center to her scholarship program for healing childhood trauma, Susan is an entrepreneur with a heavy focus on social innovation. Susan has been a certified wellness professional, facilitating and educating on transformational healing and space work with an emphasis on trauma recovery, for eighteen years. She is also a credentialed mediator (Qualified Neutral under Rule 114 of the Minnesota General Rules of Practice), and a trained Conflict Coach through the Conflict Resolution Center (Minneapolis).
Susan's writing has appeared in The Huffington Post, Elephant Journal and the Twin Cities Pioneer Press and her column, The Space Guru&trade;, has appeared in the Edge Magazine. Susan was the co-host and co-producer of the weekly radio show, Raising the Consciousness on AM950. She is also the creator of The Fabulous Paper Purge, a free online program that was featured on Fox News and KARE11, and has supported over 1300 participants.
Susan is a connector who is passionate about supporting other entrepreneurs, community building and inspiring individuals to take action in ways that benefit themselves and humanity.
Website
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For show notes head over to jenvertanen.com/goingthere64 and if there&rsquo;s one thing I want you to remember ever it&rsquo;s this&hellip;
Healing is possible and it starts with #radicalhonesty.
I believe in you so effing much and I&rsquo;m here if you ever need an emotional sidekick to help you through tough times.
Until next time&hellip;love you already.
_____
Love the sorts of fly-on-the-wall intimate conversations I&rsquo;m hosting on Going There? It would mean the WORLD if you leave a rating/review on iTunes/Apple Podcasts/ Google Play and share with folks most needing these messages of hope, resilience, healing, and yes&hellip;laughter at some of the darker sides to life.
Website: www.jenvertanen.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/goingtherewithjen
My Fave Really Hard Questions: jenvertanen.com/really-hard-questions/ (because you guys know how much I love digging deeper!)See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
063: Paula Jenkins on How To Find Joy Even When Life Is Hella Hard I could recognize that I actually am in choice in absolutely every moment. And there's a lot of power in that.
We all go through hard times but it's finding your way through it and to the other side - knowing you will battle your way out of it and that you're going to be ok. Oftentimes it's just a battle to feel like you can access joy but that doesn't mean you give up trying to find it...to feel it.
My guest, Paula Jenkins, and I discuss this and so much more on this week's episode. Paula shares with us her own journey back to joy (again and again) beginning with the traumatic birth of her son that left her with PTSD. We also explore how we can choose joy in difficult times and improbable situations...much like we find ourselves in today.
But it's not just about joy. It's also about grief and feeling every feeling in-between. Choosing the path that leads to love even when the options range from shitty to shittier...there's always still a choice and you can always choose love.
ARE YOU READY TO GO THERE?
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PAULA JENKINS is a certified life coach, and host of the popular podcast, Jump Start Your Joy &trade;.&nbsp; Her mission is to bring more joy into the world through coaching, podcasting, and helping others create podcasts to share their voice.
Jump Start Your Joy&trade; launched in 2015, and has been on iTunes&nbsp;New &amp; Noteworthy, What&rsquo;s Hot and bounces around the Top 200 under Personal Journals.&nbsp;
After receiving her Master&rsquo;s degree in Religion from Yale University, Paula was a project manager for 20 years in the digital marketing space for big clients like Clorox, Visa, Genentech, Xbox, Robert Half, and Chevron Federal Credit Union.&nbsp;
She lives in the San Francisco Bay Area with her husband, Sean the Chef, their 9 year old son, and their friendly rescue chihuahua-mix named Chewbacca Baloney Jenkins (who goes by Chewie).
Website | Instagram
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For show notes head over to jenvertanen.com/goingthere63 and if there&rsquo;s one thing I want you to remember ever it&rsquo;s this&hellip;
Healing is possible and it starts with #radicalhonesty.
I believe in you so effing much and I&rsquo;m here if you ever need an emotional sidekick to help you through tough times.
Until next time&hellip;love you already.
_____
Love the sorts of fly-on-the-wall intimate conversations I&rsquo;m hosting on Going There? It would mean the WORLD if you leave a rating/review on iTunes/Apple Podcasts/ Google Play and share with folks most needing these messages of hope, resilience, healing, and yes&hellip;laughter at some of the darker sides to life.
Website: www.jenvertanen.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/goingtherewithjen
My Fave Really Hard Questions: jenvertanen.com/really-hard-questions/ (because you guys know how much I love digging deeper!)
062: Eunice Brownlee on Living With Trauma But More Importantly, Living With Hope And The Power Of Sharing Our Stories cw: trauma, abuse including that of a minor
We can all agree...trauma sucks. And while we all wished it was different...trauma happens far more often than many of us even know.&nbsp;
If you've experienced trauma, you get the funny ways it shows up in your life from what triggers you to how you feel in your body. And it never goes away...you just find ways to work with it.
Eunice Brownlee and I dive into this and so much more in this raw + vulnerable story of trauma, resilience, and hope.
What I want people to take away from this conversation is the hope. That we are resilient, we are strong and there are ways to create safety in our worlds. There are people like Eunice, myself, and so many others out there that just want to help because we've been through it and we understand it. You are not alone.
ARE YOU READY TO GO THERE?
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EUNICE BROWNLEE has spent her career finding the balance between her left and right brains.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is a passionate writer and writes regularly about mental health, trauma, and abuse. As a survivor of all three, she uses her experience to help others open up and tell their stories. She's also a&nbsp;single mother, striving to raise a daughter who is strong and outspoken.&nbsp;When she&rsquo;s not doing any of the above, she can be found seeking her next passport stamp and drinking wine.
Instagram | Facebook | Medium
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For show notes head over to jenvertanen.com/goingthere62 and if there&rsquo;s one thing I want you to remember ever it&rsquo;s this&hellip;
Healing is possible and it starts with #radicalhonesty.
I believe in you so effing much and I&rsquo;m here if you ever need an emotional sidekick to help you through tough times.
Until next time&hellip;love you already.
_____
Love the sorts of fly-on-the-wall intimate conversations I&rsquo;m hosting on Going There? It would mean the WORLD if you leave a rating/review on iTunes/Apple Podcasts/ Google Play and share with folks most needing these messages of hope, resilience, healing, and yes&hellip;laughter at some of the darker sides to life.
Website: www.jenvertanen.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/goingtherewithjen
My Fave Really Hard Questions: jenvertanen.com/really-hard-questions/ (because you guys know how much I love digging deeper!)
061: Lisa Orkin on Running Away From Success and Finding Motivation When It's Hard To Get Out Of Bed You need to honor&nbsp;every&nbsp;part of yourself&hellip;even the part that doesn't want to get out of bed.
How do you find motivation when it's hard to get out of the bed and not just because the bed is super cozy with luxuriously soft sheets and a down comforter that's&nbsp;just&nbsp;the right weight &ndash; you know &ndash; not too heavy but light enough to keep you warm? But because life feels heavy and you're constantly in the grind going nowhere fast?
That's exactly the question Lisa Orkin and I explore in this week's #goingtherewithjen. It's one thing to be young and have your entire life ahead of you to&nbsp;figure your shit out&hellip;but entirely different when you're 57 and living the same old.
I'm also guessing Lisa and I aren't alone when we find ourselves running away from success. Why is that? Listen in to hear our thoughts&hellip;
ARE YOU READY TO GO THERE?
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LISA ORKIN been in recording studios as long as she can remember, learning from her dad and mentor Dick&nbsp;Orkin&nbsp;and eventually working alongside him as the Creative Director for his company the award-winning&nbsp;Radio Ranch.&nbsp;Lisa has over 25 years of experience in copywriting, scripting, audio production, voice acting, teaching and speaking in both traditional and digital media. She has also worked in the world of indie filmmaking as a writer, actor and producer - making&nbsp;award-winning films with the likes of Adam Mckay, Shira Piven, and Dweezil Zappa.&nbsp;
Lisa's current podcast is a wild mix of all her creative lives,&nbsp;Project Woo Woo,&nbsp;where she has very real conversations with imaginary people. And all this in a tutu and checkered Vans.
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For show notes head over to jenvertanen.com/goingthere61 and if there&rsquo;s one thing I want you to remember ever it&rsquo;s this&hellip;
Healing is possible and it starts with #radicalhonesty.
I believe in you so effing much and I&rsquo;m here if you ever need an emotional sidekick to help you through tough times.
Until next time&hellip;love you already.
_____
Love the sorts of fly-on-the-wall intimate conversations I&rsquo;m hosting on Going There? It would mean the WORLD if you leave a rating/review on iTunes/Apple Podcasts/ Google Play and share with folks most needing these messages of hope, resilience, healing, and yes&hellip;laughter at some of the darker sides to life.
Website: www.jenvertanen.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/goingtherewithjen
My Fave Really Hard Questions: jenvertanen.com/really-hard-questions/ (because you guys know how much I love digging deeper!)
060: Dawn Duncan on Changing Your Life One Tiny Step At A Time and Telling Our Stories Without Shame There's all these things that I tried to make the outlet to get rid of that edge, that wildness, really, which really was mania...
cw: drug use, suicide
You can't just change your life overnight, you have to have a game plan and you don't have to do it all at once. Find one thing, get into that, and all the other things are going to follow.
Such great words of advice from today's guest, Dawn Duncan. In this episode, Dawn shares courageously and beautifully from the heart about her mental health experiences and how she numbed with drugs and alcohol and all other sorts of ways to get rid of the edge.&nbsp;
With her marriage in shambles and finding herself in jail one night next to prostitutes and hardcore criminals, Dawn decided to turn her life around and she started with small changes that over time, led to drastic (in a good way!) results.
Listen in as Dawn shares exactly how she went from a suicide attempt and jail to the vibrant, lively, sober woman she is today. Along the way you'll hear kick you in the gut truthbombs and wisdom for how not to go it alone.
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DAWN DUNCAN is a 24 year veteran of entrepreneurship and an author who lives in Fort Collins, Colorado. She is a Northern Minnesota native and graduate of the University of North Dakota, where she received her BA in English.
Since moving to Colorado in 1994, Dawn has been an active community member, business owner, and leader who has worked in executive recruiting and training, the music industry, and now as an agency owner of a boutique copywriting and editing firm.
She is married to husband Michael, a native of Ireland, and they are proud parents of a German Shepherd rescue named Czar.
Her own experiences in the world of mental health and addiction have fueled a new passion for sharing her story with others, with hopes to inspire and guide them to the type of transformation that she has experienced in her life.&nbsp;
ARE YOU READY TO GO THERE?
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For show notes head over to jenvertanen.com/goingthere60 and if there&rsquo;s one thing I want you to remember ever it&rsquo;s this&hellip;
Healing is possible and it starts with #radicalhonesty.
I believe in you so effing much and I&rsquo;m here if you ever need an emotional sidekick to help you through tough times.
Until next time&hellip;love you already.
_____
Love the sorts of fly-on-the-wall intimate conversations I&rsquo;m hosting on Going There? It would mean the WORLD if you leave a rating/review on iTunes/Apple Podcasts/ Google Play and share with folks most needing these messages of hope, resilience, healing, and yes&hellip;laughter at some of the darker sides to life.
Website: www.jenvertanen.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/goingtherewithjen
My Fave Really Hard Questions: jenvertanen.com/really-hard-questions/ (because you guys know how much I love digging deeper!)
059: Megan Dowd on Sharing Our Vulnerability With Healthy Boundaries, The Dangers of Toxic Positivity, and The Importance of Rage Walks to Help Manage Her Depression "Medication doesn't "fix" anything. It makes it so I can deal with the actual problems, rather than making the problems feel and seem insurmountable." ~ MEGAN DOWD
You guys....this episode hits me in all the feels and I don't say that lightly...at all. Each guest and episode is so special to me but this one is extra near and dear to my heart as we talk about depression and showing up as your rawest, most vulnerable, most mundane self.
Megan Dowd calls herself a compassionate hardass and I can soooo relate. She's also master of funny faces, business therapist for neurodiverse run businesses, and all around delightful human being.
Megan and I talk about the importance of sharing our stories with healthy boundaries, toxic positivity (listen in on one of Megan's spicy soapboxes on Insta), and ways we can tune into our bodies and give it exactly what it needs whether that's a rage walk or a calming, relaxing bath.
This episode is incredibly relatable, down-to-earth, FUNNY, and full of amazing tips on learning to listen to your body and giving it what it needs during a depression cycle. I so hope you listen in and share with friends + family that could use some real, practical advice with a heaping of laughter and realness.
ARE YOU READY TO GO THERE?
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MEGAN DOWD is a business coach and brand therapist. She launched her business in 2017 to help purpose driven business owners rediscover their Core Values and reclaim their WHY.
Prior to opening her business, Megan worked in theatre, even earning her PGDip from LAMDA in London.
She believes in multi-sensory storytelling, trusting yourself, and being human first and always.
When not helping you run your business seamlessly and coherently, you may find her hanging out with her mad-scientist husburrito, dismantling diet culture, or droppin&rsquo; it like it&rsquo;s hot (living room dance party, anyone?).
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For show notes head over to jenvertanen.com/goingthere59 and if there&rsquo;s one thing I want you to remember ever it&rsquo;s this&hellip;
Healing is possible and it starts with #radicalhonesty.
I believe in you so effing much and I&rsquo;m here if you ever need an emotional sidekick to help you through tough times.
Until next time&hellip;love you already.
_____
Love the sorts of fly-on-the-wall intimate conversations I&rsquo;m hosting on Going There? It would mean the WORLD if you leave a rating/review on iTunes/Apple Podcasts/ Google Play and share with folks most needing these messages of hope, resilience, healing, and yes&hellip;laughter at some of the darker sides to life.
Website: www.jenvertanen.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/goingtherewithjen
My Fave Really Hard Questions: jenvertanen.com/really-hard-questions/ (because you guys know how much I love digging deeper!)
058: Jen Louden on How to Listen to Your Own Why Bother and Letting Desire Lead the Way So really&hellip;why bother? Why&nbsp;should&nbsp;I bother? Why should I risk it? Why should I be vulnerable?
We tell ourselves&hellip;
I'M TOO OLD. It's already been done before.&nbsp;No one's going to want to know that. WHAT'S THE POINT?
Sound a bit familiar to what's rattling around in your head? Me too.
My guest today is none other than self-development pioneer and author, Jen Louden, and in today's conversation we tackle the question &ndash; Why bother? &ndash; which is also the name of her new book.
I'm honestly so excited about this book that I'm giving away a copy to a #goingtherewithjen listener. Why? Because, as Jen says, all too often we cut ourselves off from what we most want &ndash; connection, happiness, lightness &ndash; and I choose to believe in a world that's quite the opposite and the sooner we all get there, the better. This book helps with that.
Listen in as Jen and I talk about her personal stories with why bother, how a failed book led to her latest book, identifying your minimum self-care list (especially important during this pandemic), how this question can show up in sneaky ways, and why leading with desire is the answer.
ARE YOU READY TO GO THERE?
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JENNIFER&nbsp;LOUDEN&nbsp;is a personal growth pioneer who helped launch the concept of self-care with her first bestseller, The Woman&rsquo;s Comfort Book. Since then, she&rsquo;s written seven additional books on well-being and whole living, including The Woman&rsquo; s Retreat Book and The Life Organizer, with close to a million copies of her books in print in nine languages. Jennifer has spoken around the U.S., Canada, and Europe, and has written a national magazine column for a Martha Stewart magazine. She&rsquo;s been profiled or quoted in dozens of major magazines; two of Brené Brown&rsquo;s books, Daring Greatly and Dare to Lead; and appeared on hundreds of TV, radio shows and podcasts&mdash;even on Oprah.
Her newest and most personal book Why Bother? Discover the Desire for What&rsquo;s Next will be published on May 5, 2020.
Jennifer has been teaching workshops and retreats since 1992 and creating vibrant online learning experiences since 1999. She writes weekly to her email list of 20,000 and hosts an online community of over 600 members. She lives in Boulder County, Colorado.
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For show notes head over to jenvertanen.com/goingthere58 and if there&rsquo;s one thing I want you to remember ever it&rsquo;s this&hellip;
Healing is possible and it starts with #radicalhonesty.
I believe in you so effing much and I&rsquo;m here if you ever need an emotional sidekick to help you through tough times.
Until next time&hellip;love you already.
_____
Love the sorts of fly-on-the-wall intimate conversations I&rsquo;m hosting on Going There? It would mean the WORLD if you leave a rating/review on iTunes/Apple Podcasts/ Google Play and share with folks most needing these messages of hope, resilience, healing, and yes&hellip;laughter at some of the darker sides to life.
Website: www.jenvertanen.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/goingtherewithjen
My Fave Really Hard Questions: jenvertanen.com/really-hard-questions/ (because you guys know how much I love digging deeper!)
057: Finding Your New Normal Within The Grief and Holding Space for the Complexities and Contradictions That Is Life Grief is an extension of love. ~ Megan Devine
cw: grief, loss of a parent
Life happens in the in-between.&nbsp;In-between sadness can be laughter.&nbsp;In-between heaviness, there can be light.
And no one knows that more than my guest, Brandy Morris. Brandy set about on her Year of Contrast as she both mourned the loss of loved ones (her Nana and her best friend - her dad) AND developed a more beautiful, deeper, more vulnerable relationship with her now&nbsp;fianc&eacute;. She learned how to receive out of necessity...the need to be supported and loved on...a lesson we could ALL use a little help learning.
Also? It's ok to be sad for however long you need to be. There is no time limit on grief or sadness or really, any emotion.&nbsp;
The lesson? We are complex creatures capable of navigating the spaces in-between and holding space for both.
Listen in to hear Brandy's story of grief and her Year of Contrast and know that you are not alone.
ARE YOU READY TO GO THERE?
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BRANDY MORRIS&nbsp;is a coach and consultant for business owners that love doing their work but kinda hate having to tell anyone about it. Brandy helps them identify the idiosyncrasies within their work that make it undeniably theirs (their Brilliance) so they can fine-tune their biz in a way that nurtures their best work and attracts and delights their perfect clients.
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For show notes head over to jenvertanen.com/goingthere57 and if there&rsquo;s one thing I want you to remember ever it&rsquo;s this&hellip;
Healing is possible and it starts with #radicalhonesty.
I believe in you so effing much and I&rsquo;m here if you ever need an emotional sidekick to help you through tough times.
Until next time&hellip;love you already.
_____
Love the sorts of fly-on-the-wall intimate conversations I&rsquo;m hosting on Going There? It would mean the WORLD if you leave a rating/review on iTunes/Apple Podcasts/ Google Play and share with folks most needing these messages of hope, resilience, healing, and yes&hellip;laughter at some of the darker sides to life.
Website: www.jenvertanen.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/goingtherewithjen
My Fave Really Hard Questions: jenvertanen.com/really-hard-questions/ (because you guys know how much I love digging deeper!)
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