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Do you hate working as a lawyer? Are you an unhappy lawyer who wants to leave the law, but isn't sure what to do next? Do your family and friends think you're crazy for wanting to leave the law, or are you too afraid to tell them you don't want to be a lawyer? The Former Lawyer Podcast is for you! Each week, host Sarah Cottrell interviews a different former lawyer who has left the law behind. Hear inspiring stories about how these former lawyers are thriving and found their way to careers and l… Continue Reading >>
Do you hate working as a lawyer? Are you an unhappy lawyer who wants to leave the law, but isn't sure what to do next? Do your family and friends think you're crazy for wanting to leave the law, or are you too afraid to tell them you don't want to be a lawyer? The Former Lawyer Podcast is for you! Each week, host Sarah Cottrell interviews a different former lawyer who has left the law behind. Hear inspiring stories about how these former lawyers are thriving and found their way to careers and lives they love. << Show Less
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The Long Process Of Leaving A Legal Career with Ed Cottrell Lawyers are under constant stress and pressure yet always have a “this is fine” mentality. “Everything will be fine,” we keep telling ourselves. But, is it really fine? And, is “fine” good enough?  This week, you’ll read about Ed Cottrell, a former lawyer and most importantly, Sarah’s husband. Ed had a legal career for 13 years before leaving the law for a job in legal tech. You’ll notice the ever-present theme of “just fine” in Ed’s legal career journey.  During their conversation, Sarah and Ed spoke about the positives and negatives of his legal career, how his experience intersected with Sarah’s, and ultimately, how Former Lawyer came to be.  Sarah and Ed had so much to discuss that this article is divided into two parts. So, without further ado, let’s get into it! See show notes at formerlawyer.com/150
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The Long Process Of Leaving A Legal Career with Ed Cottrell Lawyers are under constant stress and pressure yet always have a “this is fine” mentality. “Everything will be fine,” we keep telling ourselves. But, is it really fine? And, is “fine” good enough?  This week, you’ll read about Ed Cottrell, a former lawyer and most importantly, Sarah’s husband. Ed had a legal career for 13 years before leaving the law for a job in legal tech. You’ll notice the ever-present theme of “just fine” in Ed’s legal career journey.  During their conversation, Sarah and Ed spoke about the positives and negatives of his legal career, how his experience intersected with Sarah’s, and ultimately, how Former Lawyer came to be.  Sarah and Ed had so much to discuss that this article is divided into two parts. So, without further ado, let’s get into it! See show notes at formerlawyer.com/150
Leaving The Legal Profession After Practicing For Years With Landis Wade On the latest episode of the Former Lawyer Podcast, Sarah sat down with former lawyer Landis Wade to talk about his journey in leaving the law after practicing for a long time. 35 years, to be exact.  In their conversation, Sarah and Landis touched on many common themes on the podcast and in lawyers that are desperate to leave the law.  Whether you’re new or want to leave the legal profession practicing for years, this conversation will get you thinking further about what could be next for you. Let’s get started.  The Guided Track is a live 10-week small-group intensive for lawyers who want to jumpstart their search for an alternative career. You may have already heard of the Former Lawyer Collaborative. The Guided Track builds on the curriculum with Collaborative and adds this experience of a small group plus Sarah for ten weeks. You can also get weekly coaching as you move through the curriculum. The next session of the Guided Track kicks off this fall. The orientation will be on September 13th, running through November 22nd. Calls will be on Tuesday evenings at 8:00 PM Eastern.  There are nine spots available. This is a small-group experience where you're going to be able to get a lot of personal feedback from Sarah. And, included in your enrollment is membership in The Former Lawyer Collaborative. You get support beyond the 10 weeks of the Guided Track. When you enroll in the Guided Track, you get access to the Collaborative immediately. See show notes at formerlawyer.com/149
“You Have To Learn To Love Where You Are” Is Trash Advice For Lawyers Who Want To Leave The Law Today, we’re talking about a piece of trash advice that can really harm some lawyers who want to leave the law.  We really need to talk about a piece of advice that people give to lawyers about their jobs. Personally, I think that it’s just plain trash advice.  The trash advice we’re talking about today is, “Learn to love where you are.” Again, we’ll talk about why this advice is terrible for lawyers who want to leave the law and what you should do if you encounter it. Let’s get into it! See show notes at formerlawyer.com/148
Creating Change In The Legal System with Aliza Shatzman In this episode, you’ll learn about Aliza Shatzman, a former lawyer turned co-founder of a non-profit called Accountability Project.  Aliza shares the circumstances that led her to decide to leave the legal system and start The Legal Accountability Project. The Legal Accountability Project seeks to ensure that as many law clerks as possible have a positive clerkship experience while extending support and resources to those who do not. Sarah and Aliza also discuss some popular topics on the podcast, like the dysfunction in the legal system and what needs to change. This is an extremely important conversation that everyone in the profession should be having, so stay tuned! See show notes at formerlawyer.com/147
Writing A Book About Former Lawyers While Leaving The Law With Adam Pascarella On the latest episode of the podcast, Sarah had a conversation with Adam Pascarella about his journey in and out of Biglaw.  Adam is currently the founder and CEO of Second Order Capital Management. But before that, Adam worked in Biglaw as an associate and ended up writing a book while leaving the law.  The process Adam went through to figure out what he wanted to do after leaving the law is so interesting. So, stick around to read all about Adams’s journey in writing a book while leaving the law! See show notes at formerlawyer.com/146
Career Coaching for Lawyers: Working 1:1 with Sarah Cottrell If you’re a regular listener, you know that I practiced law for ten years, and now, I help unhappy lawyers ditch their soul-sucking jobs. On this podcast, I share advice for aspiring former lawyers and interviews to help you through the process of leaving and finding a new career.  Today, I want to talk to you about why I didn’t do career coaching for lawyers when I first started Former Lawyer and what got me started doing 1:1 coaching. I’ll also talk about what it looks like to work with me and how you can get started. Are you ready? Let’s get going! See show notes at formerlawyer.com/145
How (And Why) Navneet Mann Left The Legal Field For Coaching On the latest episode of the Former Lawyer Podcast, Sarah spoke with Navneet Mann, a former lawyer and listener of the podcast turned professional coach! She has her own practice, helping lawyers and other business professionals with business and mindset coaching.   In this conversation, they talked about many different topics, including law firm abuse, the lawyer identity obstacle, and so much more.  Keep reading to learn all about Navneet’s journey in the legal field and how she turned it around to become a business and mindset coach! See show notes at formerlawyer.com/144
Do I Think Everyone Should Leave The Law As you know, on the Former Lawyer Podcast, I share advice and strategies for aspiring former lawyers. And, I do interviews with former lawyers who have left the law behind to find careers and lives that they love.  Today, I want to talk about whether or not I think everyone should leave the law. Now, that might sound like a ridiculous question. But it does come up a lot from people that read the blog or listen to the podcast.   So, do I think everyone should leave the law? Keep reading to learn the answer and what my goal really is for Former Lawyer! See show notes at formerlawyer.com/143
Exiting The Legal Profession For A Startup With Karen Spencer Today, I'm sharing my conversation with Karen Spencer. Karen is a former lawyer who responded to my requests for guests who had experience in patent law. Karen has an interesting background, coming to the legal profession from engineering. First, she wanted to work in general commercial law but ended up in patent law. She soared through the legal realm, even making partner at a large law firm before exiting the legal profession for a startup. Like all my guests, Karen realized the law wasn’t for her and decided to explore her options, eventually landing in her position at SearchFunder. Let’s get into my conversation with Karen Spencer. See show notes at formerlawyer.com/142
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